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Eastern European Girls Vs. American Girls – 7 Differences

In my travels across Eastern Europe, I noticed at least 7 differences between American girls, and Eastern European girls. 

Specifically, I mean women from cities like Zagreb, Croatia and Belgrade, Serbia and Krakow, Poland and Kiev, Ukraine.  Here’s what I found.

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The Lesser Attractive Bottom Half: Eastern Europe Wins

The lesser attractive 50% (bottom half) of Eastern European girls are hotter and more attractive than the lesser attractive 50% (bottom half) of American girls.

The bottom half of American girls are generally fat and out of shape.  On top of that, they dress in non-sexual clothing that is not feminine at all.  Particularly when you go to smaller towns in the USA, the “hot girl” situation can look dismal.

But in Eastern Europe, pretty much ALL the women are at least somewhat bangable – even the bottom half 50% of the population.  None of the girls in the bottom half look like super models by any means – but they’re at least presentable looking.

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Average looking Eastern European girls (lesser 50%)

The reason isn’t “feminism” – that’s a false bogeyman.

From my observations on the scene, it’s because the United States is a richer country, and there’s FAR more food temptation everywhere.

In Eastern Europe, most girls are broke.  Going to a place like McDonald’s may be a once a week treat for a girl.

Grocery stores are also very small there, and there isn’t much junk food selection whatsoever.  Candy bars and the like tend to be quite expensive.

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Eastern European girls often eat local veggies- not out of choice, out of economic necessity.

Also, most girls can’t afford their own car, so they walk everywhere.  This also keeps their weight off to some degree.

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Girls walk to school and work, and take public transit

In the United States, even a girl making minimum wage could still afford to pig out DAILY on crap food.  In fact, eating high-calorie junk is far CHEAPER in the U.S. than eating healthier food.

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In the USA there’s cheap temptations on every street corner

In the U.S., grocery stores are huge, and have entire aisles dedicated to CHEAP potato chips and ice cream.

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Mountains of crap in every aisle

And to get around most cities and towns, having a car is absolutely mandatory, which allows a person to live a 100% sedentary lifestyle.

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As a result of America’s wealth and car infrastructure, far more women in the USA are fat.  This really puts at least half the U.S. girls at a big a disadvantage.

The Top 1% Hottest Girls: United States Wins

I was surprised to find this, but the top 1% of hot girls (the “stunners”) are a lot hotter in the U.S. than the top 1% of hot girls in Eastern Europe.

Meaning, the very best looking U.S. girls are hotter than the best looking Eastern European girls.

This comes down to at least 5 reasons.

The same wealth that makes so many American girls fat and heavy, ALSO allows a small niche of American girls to spend endless money on their looks and to eat healthy and exercise.

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A niche of U.S. women can afford to spend time and money on fitness and dress.

In other words, America’s wealth allows a couple smart girls to use money in a *constructive* way to hit the gym, hire gym trainers, work on their tan, get braces, dress well, and get their hair and nails done.  This is simply NOT possible for the vast majority of Eastern European girls.

America’s wealth allows attracts the hottest girls from all over the world to move there.  In the same way the U.S. attracts top intellectual talent from other countries (brain drain), it also attracts top beauty talent.

The United States also has far more genetic mixing than Eastern Europe.

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Hot girls flock to the U.S. from all over the world, and there is crazy genetic variety.

In an Eastern European city, all of the girls will look a bit similar – which can get boring pretty quickly.  For instance, in Kiev, 99% of the girls have tiny itty-bitty breasts.  If you want a chest heavy girl, you’re completely out of luck.

But in the U.S., you can find almost every sort of body type and every sort of ethnicity.  You’ll also find interesting ethnic mixes, like half Persian and half French, or half Japanese and half Brazilian.  This extensive genetic mixing naturally means that a small handful of the girls end up, by chance, looking exotic and like absolute stunners.

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Freakish body proportions, like big breasts, is more common in the U.S.

So whereas in an Eastern European city, all the girls tend to look like sister clones, heavily weighted toward an average homogenous look, in the U.S. you’ll find a lot more freakish-hot genetic outliers.

So where are the hotter girls?  It depends…

It depends on what you’re going for.

If you’re talking about the average girl walking down the street, Eastern Europe has a definite edge in hotness.

You can easily find more “7’s and 8’s” in Eastern Europe.  (One caveat: that is, if the narrow ethnic look of that city suits you.  If you don’t like pale skinned, waif-like brunettes, you won’t like it no matter what).

But if you’re shooting for “9’s and 10’s” – you can actually find MORE of them in the USA, if you know where to go.

So with U.S. girls, and in most richer countries in general, there’s a larger gap between the ugly girls and the prettiest girls.

While in an Eastern European country, you’ll find a better overall average, but less “perfect stunners” because all the girls are more weighted toward the average middle in terms of attractiveness.

Where will an English speaking guy have more value?

In the USA, you generally won’t stand out.

But in Eastern Europe, speaking English with a flat American accent will definitely get you noticed and win you some brownie points with the girls.

However, in my experience the same is true for generally anywhere you travel.  I’ve found that girls in Sweden and Germany also love to hear a foreign American accent.  And I’ve heard the same about Australian girls- if you’re an American living on Australia, you’ve got a definite advantage.

So yes, Eastern European girls will respond well to an American accent, but that’s not necessarily a different reaction than anywhere else.

Is it easier to get laid in Eastern Europe… or the USA?

It all depends!

You would think Eastern Europe was easier to get laid in, but it’s actually much more complicated than that.

Sometimes in poorer countries, it can actually be HARDER to get laid.

There tends to be more religious shaming.  Also, you find a stronger Madonna-whore dichotomy where prostitution is out in the open, and most “good girls” don’t want to do anything that might make them be perceived as a hooker.  Thus, they’re far less likely to hook up fast.

Girls may also heavily question your reason for being in the country, trying to figure out if you’re a sex tourist, or what your motivations are.

In poorer countries, family plays a bigger role, so the girls are more concerned about parental approval, and most girls stick with their social circles.

In the USA, there’s more of a “mingling culture” where it’s perfectly acceptable to insert yourself into a group of strangers, and American girls tend to be more rebellious.  They’re less concerned about religious or family approval, and there’s less shaming around sex.

If you’re at an intermediate or advanced level in game, the USA can actually be EASIER to get one night stands or “same night lays”.  Particularly when you combine liberal American girls with a city like Las Vegas or Cancun, a guy with good game can slay many more girls more quickly than he might in Eastern Europe.

Also, if you have a fetish for “9s and 10s”, and you want to play in the “big leagues”, the USA is where it’s at.

But if you are looking to traditionally date and woo a girl over a couple of dates – or maybe your game is at a low or intermediate level – then you’ll likely find yourself more options in Eastern Europe.

Which country has smarter, more educated girls?

I found that the top 10% of pretty girls in Eastern Europe tend to be a lot more educated than the top 10% of pretty girls in the United States.

Pretty girls in Eastern Europe will often speak multiple languages and be deeply invested in their school studies. They’re also more curious about outside cultures and countries.

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For a pretty girl in Eastern Europe, her education and curiosity about other places is her key to moving up in the world… and escape being broke like her parent’s generation.

In comparison, pretty girls in the USA tend to be airheads (not always, it’s just a tendency, there’s always exceptions!).  Most already grew up living in material ease and comfort, and their good looks brings offers of free dinners and gifts.  Pouring time into their studies doesn’t provide them with any immediate benefits, so they’re not as motivated to excel in that area.

As a result, pretty girls in the U.S. tend to live in a bubble of naivety, spoiled behavior, and just being stupid in general.

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Let’s put it this way… finding a stunner 21 year old that speaks multiple languages and is super smart and educated is a rarity anywhere… but it’s particularly rare in the US.  Either girls have brains, or they have looks– but not both.  In Eastern Europe, it’s a bit more common to find both looks and brains in one woman.

Which country has better night life?

The United States.

The nightlife in Eastern Europe is simply not as well developed as in the US, and lacks a mingling culture.

From what I’ve seen, because the US is far wealthier, more girls have the financial means to drive to a nightlife location, pay parking, pay a cover and buy drinks.  Most girls in Eastern Europe simply can’t afford to do that.

In Eastern Europe, many nightlife spots are designed around groups sitting down at tables.  This makes it harder to mingle and meet new people.

Also, the music in Eastern European clubs is pretty shitty in general and hard to dance too.

The U.S. on almost all levels is superior if nightlife is your thing.

Which country has better day game?

Any country in Eastern European beats the shit out of the US on the day game front.

Girls are poorer and can’t afford their own cars- that means they’re all out and about walking to get to where they need to go.

Compare that to the USA, where in most towns and cities you’re largely limited to roaming them mall, or hitting on waitresses.

So if you like nightlife, the USA is your best bet.  But if you like day game, Eastern Europe is better.

The Verdict: So which is better overall, the USA or Eastern Europe?

If you’re at an advanced skillset level, and you can attract the 8’s, 9’s, and 10s in the USA consistently (particularly if you’re doing night life in upscale venues in a big city), then Eastern Europe offers you NO advantages.  You’re better off staying in the U.S.

You’ll only find yourself disappointed by the lack of “10s” and you’ll think that the nightlife scene is lame.

Beginner Newbies- Who Can’t Even Approach A Girl Yet

Now if you’re too scared to even approach a girl, you will do equally poorly in either place.

Eastern European girls will NOT throw themselves at you. YOU will have to approach THEM.  And even after the approach, the girls want to see that you’re a man of action.

So if you can’t approach a girl in your home country, don’t think that going to Eastern Europe will somehow magically make it easier for you.  It won’t.

Beginners That CAN Approach Girls

However, if you CAN approach girls, but your game generally sucks (your approach is very weak and you can’t hold a set), you’ll do better in Eastern Europe.  Your exotic and foreign status means that you’ll hook a girl more easily, even if you’re a bumbling, nervous wreck.

It doesn’t mean you’ll start getting laid with quality girls, but at least you’ll be more likely to catch the odd 7 here and there.

Intermediate Guys

For guys at an intermediate skill level – Eastern Europe holds the most promise for you.

Let’s say you can approach girls, and that you’re generally a “cool guy” who gets a lot right (good voice tonality, etc), and you’re mostly doing day game on 7’s and 8’s, which you then take out on day 2’s and day 3 dates – and your results are very hit or miss for you in the U.S.  In that specific case, you may like Eastern Europe a lot.

You’ll simply find more targets and you’ll generally get better responses.  You’ll find yourself pulling more 8’s than the 6’s and 7’s you’re getting back home.

No matter where you’re living though, check out my program Nonverbal Sexual Mind Control.  You’ll immediately see a boost in your game- it’s like the equivalent of moving to Eastern Europe, but you can stay right where you’re at.

And leave me a comment below.  Have you traveled to Eastern Europe and what was your experience like?

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  1. Jesse Charger

    Tell me what you think! Or let me know about your own experiences in Eastern Europe and the girls there :)

  2. Christian

    Hi Jessie,

    Great article! Love your website! I especially like the articles you’ve posted about the importance of eliminating porn from your life. I’ve grapple with the porn thing ever since I graduated from college back in 2001. I’m 34 years old now. I think your advice is great. Unfortunately, I walk away from your articles and say to myself, “Easier said than done.” What I like about you is that impart a lot of optimism for us guys out there who are adrift. There have been countless times when I’ve thought of ending it….(my life). Why? Because I often ponder deeply about my life and my feelings and have often said, “You know, maybe I’m just ugly and women don’t find me attractive….I guess I’ll just jerk off to porn.” I’ve never had sex with a woman before. I’ve yearned to know it feels like to “stick it inside.” Before you know it, you’re addicted (to porn) and entrenched in the proverbial porn trap.

    Life is so gritty sometimes. There are times when you just want to quit life, but you can’t until you’ve done all you can. One thing that has always scared me about women is that a woman will just not like me for who I am. I used to have this mindset, “I’ll buy a BMW and make sure I have a big salary to impress a woman.” You know what? That got me know where. Instead, I ended up driving a BMW and pissing away money on maintenance costs…..uggh.

    Jesse, you offer a breath of fresh air for me. Thank you.

    • Jesse Charger

      Great story about the BMW getting you nowhere. I had a similar experience with an expensive convertible myself.

      Thanks for the props, I appreciate it man.

  3. mike

    and there you have asian girls who mix high education (at least korea and japan…), high income levels, fit bodies and virtually no religious prudity.
    hell, only fukushima prevents me from staying there!

    • Jesse Charger

      Haha you’re perfectly correct Mike. I’d spend more time in Asia, except that Asian girls don’t really do it for me!! But it IS a good place to find educated + pretty women

  4. Ric

    Are you fucking kidding me? The US has better nightlife? Eastern Europe is NOTORIOUS for crazy parties and huge festivals full of crazyness and booze. Nightclubs stay open well after 6am and you can drink anywhere unlike here in the US where most places close at 2am and you can’t buy alcohol after that. The US PALES in comparison to Europe when it comes to nightlife and getting laid. That and the fact that Eastern European girls are 100x prettier and sexies than American girls and dress way sexier.

    I usually agree with your posts Derek, bu this one was plain stupid! It doesn’t seem you have been to Europe that much my friend.

    Cheers

    • Jesse Charger

      Thanks for the comment Ric. You’re sort of correct, but also sort of wrong.

      It really comes down to the city, and the season as well. Most of EEU nightlife sucks in winter (which is quite long), whereas in the USA it’s partying all year long.

      Many EEU cities plain suck for nightlife. Zagreb, Croatia for instance. And places with a nightlife party reputation like Belgrade I found was overrated.

      Sure EEU has some big party events, but that doesn’t mean a city is consistently good.

      EEU girls aren’t x 100 prettier– right there that number is obviously an exaggeration. It all comes down to city. Take a big capitol city like Belgrade and the talent will be higher than a city like Baltimore, Maryland of course. But women flock from all over the world to South Beach, Florida for example, and if you go to exclusive venues, the talent will be prettier and better dressed than in an EEU city like Belgrade. It comes down to location, the season, and venue.

      Basically if some guy thinks EEU is better, that’s a perfectly fine opinion. I’m just throwing cold water on the idea that EEU is some kind of paradise by exaggerated reports that typically serve the reporter’s ego more than speak a level headed observation.

  5. vishal

    awsome……im from mumbai,india.now im totally changed jesse after reading ur articles….i expect u 2 put magical formula that drives girls crazy 4 boys….keep it on…..be rich finally its ur business.

  6. Eric

    Love your website! Just discovered it today and I’m hooked. I agree with the article. I might want to add, being a foreigner living for half my life in the USA, that I also find American girls a little more spoiled. Simple example, try taking an American out on a date to a McDonald’s and you’ll get slapped like you pulled a wrong move on her. Whereas EEuropean girls tend to appreciate more gestures. This is generally speaking and in no way a rule of thumb. Heck I’ve had a similar experience but with Chili’s WTF!?

    • Jesse Charger

      It’s their way of testing you. If you react and try to kiss their ass and get their approval, it shows to the woman that you think she’s higher value and that you’re an easy pushover. Simply ignore her, remain unreactive, and American girls will quickly drop that act. You can in fact take out very snobby girls to Burger King and they will love it, as long as you remain unreactive and tease her.

  7. Sebastian

    I simply love Eastern European girls. This weekend I will fly to Gdansk to visit a girlfriend there and to spend the weekend having sex and eating delicious polish food :-)

    In my opinion most of them (of course not all) are much more feminine then western women. They also care more about their looks and how they are seen by men.

    I totally agree with you that it isn’t automatically easier to have sex in Eastern European countries than it is in Western countries like the USA. Even if those girls are maybe poorer, the social pressure and family pressure is higher.

    It is funny how most western women argue that men who like Eastern European women just can’t get western women. That’s not true. There are just too many stereotypes when it comes to foreign dating.

    And also the stereotype that all Eastern European women are gold diggers is just a lie. There are good and bad women in every country.

    I admit that I have a weakness for Eastern European girls and I am looking forward to this weekend ;-)

    • Jesse Charger

      great tips sebastion

  8. PCBWW

    what a piece of trash and racist article against eastern europeans blabla bla they are poor etc. You dumb americans should stop writing your opinions about us and leave us alone with your idiotic blogs to make money with advertisements.

    • Jesse Charger

      durrr

  9. Chris Calo

    Hey Jesse, I love your breakdown of Eastern Europe vs America in terms of girls. You can really tell that you’ve experienced both and some spot on comments about both.

    Even though I think Eastern Europeans have more potential in terms of genetics (if that makes any sense) I often find that American girls really know how to make what they have work.

    That said, when you travel all the girls look so exotic that it’s hard to resist!

    • Jesse Charger

      True true!

  10. Matt Stellato

    maybe you can help

  11. Akbar

    Hey Jesse, Did you travel to europe by yourself or you had company of your friends? Did you know anybody in the country you were visiting in advance to help you find an acomodation and induction into their culture generally? Is it safe to travel these eastern European countries alone? Which one is the best eastern European country, name only one. I might visit that one in February or March.

    • Jesse Charger

      Akbar, it’s safe, you can go alone. If you’re nervous about being alone, use hostels. There’s no “best” per se as each country or city has its pros and cons, it depends on your budget for instance.

  12. Dan Miles

    Right on..I married a EEU.
    Spot on reporting

  13. Anonymous

    Love this site,but I have an important question. English teacher x says Russia and Ukraine etc are all played out. is this true?

  14. Anonymous

    Hi, have you ever met a mail ordered bride from Poland? I happened to meet a few Russian and Ukrainian ones but not a single one from Poland. Are Alabama girls just like New York girls? Do French girls walk more cause they are poor? Do they eat more vegetables cause they are poor? I am EEG and trust me, I can afford McDonald’s. It’s just that it is not part of my tradition…….. ;o) Some observations spot on tho.

  15. David

    Comment:
    Well written and damn accurate. European women dress for their men and embrace their femininity. CAUTION: They understand men extremely well and will see through any bullshit very quickly. Be genuine and direct from the start. They know you have a ball sack and unlike American women they expect you to act like a man, not some hybrid gender confused pussy! This is why I love Europe, a man can be a man.

    I travel internationally and I date a girl in the Ukraine. She’s off the scale in looks and brains. We met in coffee cafe’, she spoke some English and I knew some travel phrases in Russian. She was definitely attracted by my English and that is how we got our conversation going. Let me say this about “family values”.. they love it and love a guy with kids. Really,, these girls aren’t players that American girls are. They are also very loyal in a relationship… Old school values apply here. If you’re looking for a quick fix then you might as well pay for it.

    I have to add something about their intelligence. They are all very well educated. Better bring you game and be able to hold a conversation on intellectual topics. They love the arts and literature.

    Just say’en guys.. European ladies are a whole different ball game. Better dress for success also. Don’t wear tennis shoes. Sport jacket over jeans looks good for most occasion. Dress European, show you have some class because Europe is still more conservative than the U.S.

    • Anonymous

      I am Eastern European, and live in the U.S.

      I see a guy with kids from another women as a man with baggage.

      I see it as a hurdle, not as an asset, and most Eastern European girls I know feel the same way.

  16. Anonymous

    Jesse, I have no wtf you’re smoking on. But Happierabroad.com is loaded with a dozen of men that will disagree with the sh*t you just said about American women being more open. American females are paranoid to sh*t and they are extremely unapproachable. Why else would there be so many young single men in the states? A lot of men travel abroad to find wives, because American women are definitely not marriage material. You go on and on about a woman’s appearance but mention nothing about attitude, personality, and good character. Most older men strongly prefer Good girls, I hate it when stupid men make it sound like the only thing a female is good for is F*cking and that’s about it.

    If you want real love, America is seriously considered one of the WORSE nations in the whole world for men that want a family or a serious relationship. Feminism truly is the main reason why women here are harder to date. Clearly females in the States have extremely unrealistic standards too. Only on American dating sites would women bring up a man having to own a damn vehicle as a requirement to date them. I don’t want a “Mixed” female in the first place. I’d rather have a full blooded Russian wife or girlfriend with a Russian Accent them some dumb half Russian half Mexican that not only acts ghetto, but is too much of a B*tch to behave like a real woman.

    if anything most men that have traveled claimed that women abroad are WAY easier to talk to than American women are. Why? Because obviously if a 60 year old wants an 18 year old girlfriend he can seriously get one in Europe. And I have to disagree with that whole concept that women abroad are poorer. That’s a load of BS. It’s also obvious that if a woman looks too good in America, chances are she has a stupid ego and self entitlement issue. Not to mention women in America will actually strike and hit men physically and then on top of that expect them not to retaliate. That type of childish behavior is the main reason why I hate American culture so damn much. I’ve yet to read a story about an Eastern Europe female getting pissed at a guy over dumb sh*t and setting his personal belongings on fire.

  17. Iva

    This happens to be the most ludicrous article I have ever read in my whole entire life. It dehumanizes women, it’s racist and non-the less it lacks factual information and works on stereotypes and assumptions. You surely are a pathetic little boy with a big ego!

  18. Anonymous

    I got kicked out of the mall after doing daygame there like 6 months 2-3 days a week 30 approachs per week.Got all flakey numbers.But I did get pretty good at getting numbers.So Im going to look for another mall and game at the beach.Like 20 or so about 4-5 fake numbers too.

  19. Hot Girl

    Love your website. Now I can reject guys who use your techniques and vernacular twice as fast as usual. Thank you.

    • Bibi

      Well said! Besides, any female with a grain of sense could easily spot a guy with only one interest in life anyway. Number one: he would be dead boring simply because his brain has usually dropped by a couple of feet or more and isn’t able to function normally! ;)

  20. billy

    I don`t don`t quite understand why some people get offended when men look for forgeign girlfriends for anyway ? My mom dated and married 2 men from holland so why should men get the cold shoulder for because they like women from other nations ? My friend is from Bulgaria, and she is really beautiful too. She has blue eyes of the blueish skys and her hair is long and brown, and she looks as if she could be model. Even though is she is with someone, she stills talks to me time to time. I haven`t been able to speak with her in last few days,and it really hurts me. I feel awesome whenever I talk to her,and she said she feels great when when she talks to me too. She said I am wonderful guy and like it whatever I talk to her. I don`t understand why some people make it such big issue for whenever men from states talks to forgeign chicks for. I mean if you like somebody,why should it matter what country their from ? Love is love right ? If I had money, a passport,and ticket, I`ll be in Bulgaria right now to go visit,and see what the country has to offer. I like American women too. I don`t think their all fat and spoiled. Yes, there are some who do whine alot and some who have weight problems, but that`s only certain portion. I do tend to be more attracted to forgeign women though due to their accents,and their exotic. But that`s just me. Everyone has different taste in different things. So why judge a person because their love is on the other side on the planet ?

  21. ME

    Maybe there’s more variety in the USA because there are no real Americans there? lol USA is basically all the girls from all over the world ghettoed in one spot. So you bet your ass there’s a variety. Good for the kind of people who don’t have one type. Europe’s for the kind of people who know what beauty is, not a quick fuck.

  22. Stav

    I think european girls look better(also better faces), you just like big boobs. By the way, that girl from the picture is fat but i noticed that lots of americans like chunky females. :)

  23. k

    you guys suck, really. i live in uk and I had smart asses like you tried to pick me up or so and none have ever stand a chance. don’t try to read on the internet about how get a polish girl. We are just like every other woman. nothing different. If you want sth easy you will get shit and that’s everywhere, like anything, good things don’t come easy!

  24. Anastasia

    I’m a bred and born Russian female who is now living in the US, and I have to say that what you said about us Slavic women is inaccurate to a degree.

    First, most of us walk to places because it’s easier to get around cities that way. Just like NYC and LA, it’s mostly easier at times to take public transit or walk to get to places. Also, we eat a lot of vegetables and fruits because that is in our traditional cuisine, and not because “we can not afford it.” Also, we do not “put out” more than American women because we are taught better. It’s trashy to have a lot of sexual partners here.

    Btw, the average breast size in EEU is two cup sizes larger than the American size. And I’m talking about natural, not fake. So back your shit up.

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