Another movement to destruction. Jesse can not help me.

Nice, i like reverse theory.

I actually think i already started to apply some of the things she did to me, and reversed them back because some of the things had sucha great impact on me, cool.

About the imaginary flake.

Im gaming this other girl out there, she told me she would like to come over once when time allows her. She asked if i still wanted her to come over, I said, yea, cool, sure, just tell me when you got time for it.

Why i acted like this? Because, i dont wanna chase and keep asking the whole time when she has time for it. So instead i told HER to come to me when she has time.

But somehow ive got this feeling shes never gonna bring it up. (Maby im over-paranoid and need to wait) but ive no clue if theres gonna be any progress at all or if shes ever gonna say when has time for it.

I dont think theres an attraction issue here, shes into me, no doubt, but she has some minor personal issues atm, and she cant come over/has time for it and i think thats gonna cause her to flake and that things will never progress in the end.

If id do that imaginary flake in this situation, it would look kinda crazy, wouldnt it? So what would you suggest? (All i do now is wait till she brings it up to me, while ofcourse still keeping her attracted, but im trying to keep contacting her less and less now)

remember the all important element, compassion.

wrong,
"no, you can't come over anymore, because you can't seem to find time...
so, I'm sorry... actually, time is an illusion, you are in control of it, you may think you don't have time, but actually, you have all the time in the world.
you still can't come over though, but we can hang out right now, and I want you to join me for a cup of coffee and continue this conversation, let's go."

change the frame and insta-date her.
make the oppotunity, don't act in spite by trying to play hard to get,

uh huh, and most likely, she won't.
coming over to a guy's house is a big thing for a girl, and a girl will never act on her own about it unless there is massive attraction and connection.
she will need to be led otherwise, and you must make that happen, don't wait for her to decide.
You are basically giving her the right reason to flake on you.

exactly my point,
you cannot bring a girl straight to your house without enough rapport building in other areas, unless you both are mature adults with lots of experience, but you're still very young.
in short, unless she is a promiscuous wanton slutmachine,
she won't do that unless she feels a lot of trust and comfort in being with you.
Instead, ask her to hang out with you over coffee or something, to build more connection and confort.

yepp,
and what girl doesn't have issues?
no time = excuse.
she is attracted to you, but she is not connected to you, and doesn't feel comfortable about coming to your place,
are you expecting a girl to just come over to your house on her will, the very first time? ha ha.
No, you have to smoothly transition it, so in the end, after you've slept with her, she'll go home and make up some excuse about it so she doesn't seem like a slut for doing it,
"ohh, we just went for coffee,... and then he wanted to show me some photos... and then the house was really comfortable and I wanted to stay for a little bit... and then the movie was really good, and I got emotional... and then we had some wine... and then things just happened! yeah! it was the wine, it's not my fault, hah!"
remember, girls don't want to feel like a slut, at anytime, ever.(normal girls, that is, lol)

no, you be the one to initiate it,
with insinuations to get her to imagine being with you,
"wouldn't it be great, when we hang out, and really enjoy each other's company, and really talk about whatever comes up and really feel comfortable with each other?... hey, I'm going for a cup of coffee, right now, join me, for the next 15 minutes"

you get the point.

lol,
no,
you are not man enough for being so attached to this girl and letting yourself get damaged emotionally,
and you are not man enough because you can't keep your words.
so you're telling me you were ossessed and caught in a "pussy-trance" every minute, every second, every day? lol
right,
anyway, I could care less if you reply to them,
it's just that I wanted to hear what you have to say in those thread,
but they are long dead now, lol,
and if right now you really want to dig up those zombies and bumb those threads, feel free to do so.


peace,
~LKP

Thx phoenix for your input, but she didnt exactly ment to "my place" but more like to "meet up", but i agree i shud be the one taking the iniative as she probably wont.

But what if she REALLY doesnt have time, or what if her situation REALLY doesnt allow her? Next her? But keep her hanging for a while, maby she can in the future?

"hey HB, do you want to meet me for 'coffee' and then I can bring you home and make incredible love to you and give you some raging cosmic orgasms to the stars??"
-"no, aRRR! I can't, I'm busy, I would love to fuck you, but today I have to dye my cat's fur, so she can be blonde and hot like me, hehehe! "


1) remain composure, show understanding
2) joke around with it, tell her it's her loss
3) back off, and recover and be sincere
4) continue to build comfort/attraction/trust/interest/ and screen more.
5) repeat. Confident persistence is the key
6) when all else fail, let her know that you see other girls indirectly and tell her stories about your time with other girls

good luck,
~LKP

Phoenix, Karea, THANK YOU.

Karea,
you are absolutly right. getting laid does not make any difference until you push the red button. so i am planning on taking spanish classes to learn a new language and to distract myself mentaly.



Phoenix,

your inner game is tight, much respect.


p.s

Etc,.. Thank you to. (Cedar that's you and the rest)

most of us do, this one has been my GF from 6 months prior to learning about SS.

it was a strong mutual love that i had to break up. (damn that pussy was delicious.... mmmmmm yummy....)
and it was not lust, it was love + lust. which is the best kind.

oh well... crashed, burning, survive, learn, and grow stronger.

Hey New alex! I was there once with this girl I was my girlfriend. I got her a job

at this bar I visited her everyday at work. I was always thinking about her

getting knots in my stomach. Her Co workers called me needy behind my

back. She started handing out her number to some guys in the bar and

started sleeping with other people. But I was a wuss I kept running back to

her and trying to work it out. But in the end she got 2 abortions from 2

different guys she had slept with and I just got tired and started to move on.

I thought about it and decided that it was a poor approach on letting a

women

dominate my life. So I come on here to learn and to give input. (hence I have

been out for a while busy with work stuff) But you know what you got to give

it a chance because this stuff does take time to learn and you can never stop

improving. So hang in there and if you like this girl your with just well back up let

the wound heal and slowly move in but take the steps that these guys on

here are talking about or just move on

and

She had two abortions with two different guys. Getting pregnant twice, what is she fertile myrtle over there? Have these guys heard of a condom? LOL.

She's a zeta female if you ask me. Honestly, look at yourself in the mirror. Who are the real wusses, you or her and those two guys? And look at the bright side, you are leagues ahead of her now

Guys this is an old story. Again I would like to thank you all.

I changed. I am busy with my work but I changed. I even run a lair in my country Cyprus.

People, it is true that I m still working with that girl in the same department. Since I started posting about my pain with her, 2 and a half years were wasted for nothing.

Now, after 2 and a half years of pain and coldness, after the confidence I gained from reading and applying Jesse´s methods, cds etc together with talking to girls, I am not ready to go through the pain I had with that particular girl...

I gave enough to her. If she wants me she has to chase me. Yes you hear well. If she wants me she has to prove that she worths to have my attention.

I am sorry guys. Its Bad that the seduction field program men always to be the predators. No, there is point that they need to stop chasing and Screen the girl hard with what they want. Thanks Jesse for introducing the screening proceedure as it is the most important element in the seduction.

Yes, I see her everyday at work, at the bus station...everyway, I have no alternatives, I can not quit a job that many would only dream to have.

I am not willing to try the game all over her again. She chases me and she proves that she worths having me, Or I sleep with other girls who can prove, physically and mentally, that they do worth having me and my attention!

Other than that?
Good Sarging people.......There are better tomatoes over there!!! Hahahaha............

Yeah I think im but my confidence level has been down but I really have a good reason and when this thing im banking on gets resolves my confidence level is going to explode again

congratulations

This is a breakthrough for you!!!

Keep this frame and grow, you can do it....now tell us why you would keep this image as an avatar?

SHS