Hey man, welcome to the forums area. I think what you're missing is getting physical as that's really key and you don't mention at all. Getting physical, and physically leading the girl. It sounds like your interactions are all about chit-chat, which is enough to get the girl interested, but not really hard attracted and horny for you. Have you checked out the core program yet? It's 15 hours and pretty cheap but will really get you pointed in the right direction and you'll be able to ask more specific questions after you listen to it. As right now I could write you a book about what you're asking. Here's the link, http://www.seductionscience.com/nvsc/
I'm assuming you're talking about bars and clubs, right? Can you specify? Attraction can be done and over within a few minutes and which point you can transition into connection where the girl is now opening up to you and the conversation goes more 50/50. It completely depends on what you're doing (ie touching her or not) and where you are (club, bookstore, a 2nd date).
Wow Southeast Asia that's pretty cool. You should clean up there, no competition right? :lol: Here's some more articles on touching women http://www.seductionscience.com/2011/oxytocin-the-horniness-elixir/ http://www.seductionscience.com/2010/seductive-touching-in-the-club-a-pick-up-example/
Suja; I was just thinking that things MAY be very different here in the USA as opposed to SE Asia. What I mean are cultural/religious differences. (Would you want to tell us where in SE Asia you live?) Your desire to gain better skills with women is a BIG step to take that most men don't try to do..they just meander around trying to please women and playing by the rules that your society tells them. With greater results, your confidence will improve. This means, practice, practice, practice. Get our there and apply the things that are taught here. You are on a Great Journey of Your Life. TM
Saja; Sounds pretty grim if you say it is like living in the USA 250 years ago as a Catholic society. The Wiki report doesn't sound like it's a good place to live. I was thinking that other places to live, other than the USA, may be better for you. Such as, Sweden, Iceland and Denmark. The economic situation in the USA isn't great...too many people have to struggle to make a living. You have good English writing skills...are you going to a university? What is the dominate religion? I know very little about Bangladesh. Here's some info about it...correct anything that's NOT true. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. This article is about the People's Republic of Bangladesh. Not to be confused with West Pakistan. Is a sovereign state located in South Asia. It is bordered by India on all sides except for a small border with Burma (Myanmar) to the far southeast and by the Bay of Bengal to the south. Together with the Indian state of West Bengal, it makes up the ethno-linguistic region of Bengal. The name Bangladesh means "Country of Bengal" in the official Bengali language. The borders of present-day Bangladesh were established with the partition of Bengal and India in 1947, when the region became East Pakistan, part of the newly formed nation of Pakistan. However, it was separated from the western wing by 1,600 km (994 mi) of Indian territory. Due to political exclusion, ethnic and linguistic discrimination, and economic neglect by the politically-dominant West Pakistan, popular agitation grew against West Pakistan and led to the Bangladesh Liberation War in 1971, which the Bengali people won with the support of India. After independence, the new state endured famines, natural disasters and widespread poverty, as well as political turmoil and military coups. The restoration of democracy in 1991 has been followed by relative calm and economic progress. Bangladesh is a secular republic and a parliamentary democracy, with an elected parliament called the Jatiyo Sangshad. It is the eighth most populous country and among the most densely populated countries in the world. A high poverty rate prevails, although the United Nations has acclaimed Bangladesh for achieving tremendous progress in human development.[6][7]Geographically, the country straddles the fertile Ganges-Brahmaputra Delta and is subject to annual monsoon floods and cyclones. The country is listed among the Next Eleven economies and Global Growth Generator countries. It is a founding member of the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation, the D-8 and BIMSTEC, and a member of the Commonwealth of Nations, the Organisation of the Islamic Conference and the Non-Aligned Movement. However, Bangladesh continues to face a number of major challenges, including widespread political and bureaucratic corruption, economic competition relative to the world, serious overpopulation, widespread poverty, and an increasing danger of hydrologic shocks brought on by ecological vulnerability to climate change.
"well i told my problem to some other guys n they didint understand it at all... they just directed me to some huge volumes about creating confidence etc n all other bullshit". Almost ALL men don't know much about seduction/sexuality. They will think that they do, but, they DON'T. Men who pursue these efforts are few and far in between. These men and women are, usually, on the fringes of our society....Think: Jesse, Karea, myself, and others on this Forum. There are many more men and women on the internet who are on the fringes..in other words, NOT mainstream. "its not that girls dont like to go 4 an affair.. its the oppurtunity n also if u first promise them marriage.. i do first promise them marriage after i demonstrate myself as a trophy or catch..later when i finish with them, i simply devalue myself by intentionally giving them clues of my cheating with other girls n then they curse me n break the relationship... no troubles after that..". Jesse may explain this better, but, it is NOT a good idea to, essentially, NOT tell the woman what your intentions are..You are lying to her about your intentions...This is NOT a good idea in many ways. This can be disgusted, later. "bro can u give me some tips of sexualization.. like how to make her think of me sexually 24/7 without me doing any direct advances? verbal will be most appropriate". You NEED to make some kind of direct advances to her for her to think of you as a person she would like to be intimate with. I am a BIG fan of TOUCHING women, initially. But, this MAY be inappropriate in your country. A man's VOICE is VERY important to a woman. This is where you can make improvements. Learning to speak in a mellow, confident and sometimes louder voice is important. There's NO magic bullet in learning the skills in being sexually confident...It's a long Journey. I learned a lot from people who practice Tantric/Taoist Beliefs in sexuality. TM Note: Saja, Jobic (a member of this Forum), mentioned a wise saying that a Buddhist teacher said to his student when the student asked the teacher to teach him something: The Buddhist teacher said, "For me to fill your cup of tea would mean that your cup of tea would, then, start to over flow. You must, first, turn your cup of tea upside-down and empty your cup of tea, in order, for me to fill your cup with tea". In other words, the Buddhist teacher knew the student was NOT ready to accept NEW ideas or beliefs...his cup was still, full. The student had to be ready to accept new ideas and be willing to accept new ideas.
"3.tell her that i m very confident in sexual matters because i have learnt and perfected the kamasutra or tantric sexual acts". DON'T tell her, show her!..She will think you are bragging if you tell her. Have you perfected these acts?...DON'T lie!:lol: Everything else sounds good. I just can't believe that you are 18 and remember when Jesse was Derek. (When did you start learning about sexuality and seduction?) TOUCHING can be a handshake, holding hands, touching her shoulder and hugging. You know about the Oxytocin Effect?... By your last post, I was surprised you know sooo much!:thumbup: If I lived in your country, I would be scared shitless to do anything with a woman! Here's what I mean- Because you live in Bangladesh, I became more interested in where you live. Every now and then, I read stories about how harsh people are concerning sexuality in other countries. Sex News in Asia with Dr. Martha Lee It's sad that overt Muslim practices still exist. Here's an article about a 14 year old girl: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/29/bangladesh.lashing.death/index.html?iref=obinsite Here's other reports about Asia. My guess is that they are true: http://sexwithtimaree.com/2011/05/05/sex-news-in-asia-with-dr-martha-lee-3/ TM
"n about courage to do this things in my country.. well fortune favors the brave remember... though u have to survive to tell this:lol:". My guess is, you are doing your seduction techniques in areas where it is relatively safe to do so. You are aware of the problem areas. My guess is, in large cities, the overt consequences to sexuality isn't well enforced. I glad that you have started learning this stuff when you were 14....Amazing! :thumbup: "bro apart from long chit-chat i want to discuss about romantic type of seduction.. like jesses romantic archetype.. i lack bit in this field". I will try to answer your questions. I wasn't sure about your knowledge and beliefs...sorry, about all of this chit-chat. I don't have a lot of knowledge about the archetypes. (I think I am the Lover.) My knowledge/beliefs and experience is in teaching women how to have many orgasms and types of orgasms. Being able to do this to +300 women, more than 1,000 times, has helped me gain my sexual confidence. It's a GREAT feeling to know that I can easily do this to 95% of the women. [Some women, (2% -5%), can NOT have orgasms. The percentage of women who NEVER had an orgasm is unknown.] Note: Other people think that the percentage of women who can NOT have orgasms is much higher, 43% - 80%. My belief is the men they are with are NOT competent in pleasuring women. Here's a good question- How many women have you been sexual with?...Did they have orgasms? Note: I read something about the worst country where women are sexually frustrated is, Thailand. TM Note: I am going to encourage you to learn how to pleasure women and to use safer-sex-practices. I believe that your life will become more happier if you learn these things.
