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CF,

So asking her about her travels and interests is deep enough? That doesn't seem very deep to me. But I'll still do it.

I'll be back soon...

Av

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The Seven Day Mental Challenge

I did it several years ago...and Tony Robbins is right. You will never turn back after you complete it.

So everytime I experience a set like this, and think "GOD I SUCK!!!!" I always reframe immediately...no what I really meant was..."I'm learning".

Karea...you got your wish, I found a cute single girl...but I didn't deliver this time. I will!!

I NEED TO GET SOME FUCKING SEXUAL TENSION GOING!!!!

This set was not good, but at least I know why. I wasn't in my element...you can hear the breakdown in my non-verbals. I'm trying to do it without routines so you can hear place holders in my conversation..."uhhs" and "ums"...long Pauses in my conversation...it's like I'm trying to keep the conversation alive.

You can also hear me bragging about being in the airshow...wayyyy DLV.

I guess I didn't rehearse it all that well, after I talked to Levo I just felt like I didn't need routines, but they definitely help me. Even after all this time in the field.

It's humbling...and I totally understand why the girl shot me down.


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With every failure, there is a victory down the road!

I hope you guys are learning something from my failures.

Back to listening to David D "Power Sexuality"....I will succeed...I will succeed...

Best,
Av

Amsterdam ehehehe I lived there for several years mate. If we ever meet I am gonna have to tell you about my adventures whilst living there

CF

Party at the Air Show BABAYYYYY!!!

The set starts around 1:30 on this clip...after 3:05 you can't really hear us talking. Also my friend drowns out some of my conversation with the girl, hopefully you can hear me.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/mya5w7

This extraction was easy, as was kinoing the shit out of her...but she didn't want to kiss.

Second set I don't have an audio clip of...met her at a party afterwards. She is immediately qualifying herself to me, so I started to screen...and she kept jumping through hoops so I screened harder. Eventually I spun her around and said, "You are really sexy" and she was all smiles...and I grabbed her belt and pulled her into me...but she wouldn't kiss...we were in a public place. I completely understood.

I kept hitting on her alot in comfort (this is what Sinn told me to do). I found out she was into fitness (she's a professional fitness trainer), languages, travel, she's Catholic, and she loves dance...so I was like "Shit, where have you been all my life?" and I had her laughing alot, but the kiss was not coming...she said "I like hugs" and she would hug me tight.

Eventually, I said hey let's go jump on the trampoline outside...so we went out to jump and had a blast, I tackled her, tickled her and then tried again for a kiss but she still resisted cuz alot of people were coming outside.

I continued having fun with her and teasing her alot, but afterwards we had to go...I number closed, and set a day2 with her coming to the airshow. She REALLLLLLYYY wanted to come. But I haven't heard from her since.

I keep texting her, cuz persistence is my middle name.

Best,
Av

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Thank you for typing that out...

BS,

YES, it does help.

I still have to learn the art of engaging the woman emotionally, and I think that I can learn alot from you here.

I have no problem kinoing like a madman, moving right into her space, all the non verbals are easy. But they're not everything.

How do you engage the woman emotionally without showing too much interest? Like asking her about herself, but doing it in a way that doesn't seem overly interested...or do I want to seem very interested in her in comfort?? Maybe I should, I don't know. I've always felt like I was showing too much interest, that's why all my sets stall. 007 was always saying I didn't show enough (which I disagree with), but that I wasn't emotionally engaging her. That is something I've listened too.

Also, what is the goal with emotional engagement? What feelings do I want to make her feel? Obviously, I want to make her feel safe with me, and comfortable. I want her to feel as if she draws strength from me. But at the same time David D says that I have to be a sexual threat.

Your field report was good. I'd like reading more of them. You seem to have a lot of that touch that I'm missing.

Best,
Av

You did good, you SOI'd great, ...up until the part you pulled her in.

You can't just usually kiss her like that, you got to build da sexual tension.

Ramp up the sexual tension, pull her in but instead of kissing get real close to her and look her in the eyes. Do this a few times. If you are in tune with the vibe, you will know the right time to go for the kiss.

007...great to have you back.

I'm going to try more of the unpredictability like you recommend. But it just feels erratic and confusing. How long does that have to go on before we can just be normal with each other?

Best,
Av

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One art of seduction is to keep her on the edge of your unpredictability. This peaks her interest, it intrigues. You build the tension by doing what 007 said, lean in, let her feel your breath on her neck, then whisper in her ear. Lean back out, make her feel the void, she will crave the closeness. A woman NEVER tires of the feeling you can give her by doing this kind of thing. You just have to change it up so your unpredictability is not predictable.

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AV,

SHS is right on. The man knows what hes talking about. You want to build tension. Read this a few times and let it sink in so it becomes part of you.

But as far as the unpredictability and being erratic and so forth, I'm not exactly sure what your saying. I don't really think of it as being unpredictable, more of grooving to the rhythym kinda thing. But if its any help think of it as this...

...When go dancing do you think about it too much, or do you just go with the rhythym? You probably at your best when you don't even think about it and just move with the music, right.

When you play something like basketball do you keep thinking what the other guys is gonna do next or do you just react to his move?

Of course you already know some basic dance moves or basketball moves, but you don't think about them constantly you just react, correct.

Imagine being with a woman as similar to this, as going with the flow reacting to the chemistry between the two of you. You need to appreciate the beauty and power of being in the moment, ---of losing yourself to it.

Remember the last part in Star Wars were Luke is going to destroy the Death Star and Obi Wan says "let go Luke", "trust your instincts" or something like that, its kinda like that, you are going to be Luke Skywalker...

...and I of course am Han Solo, he had the cool spaceship and got the chicks

let me explain

Unpredictablility and being erratic are completely different.

Unpredictability breeds interest and intrigue it makes her crave more. Women have been programmed over the years by AFC's to expect one thing, one forward assault on the woman to get want they want from them. This forward assault does not relent until they give up what is desired and of course that is sex. Sometimes the guy keeps pushing until marriage and even the occasional guy keeps doling out these pursuits well into marraige. Women have adapted and learn to allow a guy to have this sex but then she first needs to make him give her things, dinners, gifts, complements etc. (AHHH, life as a former AFC)

Contrast that with a guy that teases, pushes/pulls, gives an IOI and yet does not follow it up with a gushing, dripping surrupy compliment. Contrast it with a guy that leans in to her and as she expects a kiss he instead breaths a hot breath on her neck and whispers in her ear. Better yet, walk up behind her and do not touch her, just let her feel your presence, feel your breath oon her neck along with a well placed comment in a low strong but not too loud voice. This short circuits her "expectations". Guys don't do this naturally, they usually go for the kiss, go for the fondle they are full court pressure. These are missions into her space, they set a precident, they let her know you can go into that zone and you don't always have to pursue what is being protected. This is confusing to her, interesting and exciting. This builds a subconcious attraction.

Yes, there are times to give them the "expected". There are also times to mix in these little unpredictable things. However, you know full well what you are doing, you understand it unnerved her, it made her wonder. That is why an unexpected full and powerful embrace delivered with a passionate kiss and then quickly releasing her will leave her weak kneed and looking for something to lean on. Gifts are the same way, there is nothing wrong with giving a gift to a woman, it is how you do it and why you do it that make the diffrence. An unexpected gift can be worth more than all the flowers on Valentines days you could ever buy.

Let's contrast this with erratic behavior. When you are erratic you have no plan, you just react to the moment, off the wall behavior, sometimes funny but just one turn and twist after another. This can be percieved as wierd or creepy. Worse yet it can be funny and then you might be out in the "friend zone" as the the "life of the party", "he's so funny but not my type".

Unpredictable behavior is what is known as the gushing romantic repeat of the night before to her friends and even her Mom sometimes. He was so caring and sweet, I never expected, he surprised me, etc. Then he took me to bed and he was wonderful. ( translated; he took me as the relenting slut I wanted to be and completely exhausted me with his sex)

SHS,

My mistake, I meant the post towards AV, not you. I shoulda directed it towards him after quoting you (I'll ammend it)

To I guy who has a good idea of what he is doing like you, everything becomes clear, its not a confusing subject its more of a flow.

I was trying to illustrate to AV, that when it comes to interacting with women in a sexual way it comes down to instinct. Its not a 1+1=2, if I do this then she'll do this, type of thing. Its more like a dance, when you dance you don't think I'll put my foot here then here, you just go with the music. I guess it could have been confused as being erratic and such, when its not really what I was getting at.

understood

Good points....

Went for a sailing boat trip out-of town this weekend...alot of fun hitting wave-tops along the wind-swept coast of Santa Barbara.

007 and SHS...I am trying to let go and just not think about what I'm doing. Just trust the instincts more.

I could build more sexual tension, I tend to only do it when I see the opportunity. I have to learn to create opportunity.

One of these clips is nightgame, one is daygame. I think I opened about 10 sets nighttime...in the second one, I open the girl at Church, and try to get her feeling a range of emotions. I'm not using any routines, free-styling more so I don't come across "lack of soul". Trying to multi-thread more too.

Levo had said that I sound "reaction-seeking" with micro-pauses in my conversation.

Honestly, I think that I am slowing my speech so that I can think of what to say. I don't think that it's reaction seeking, but it could come across as a little strange (cuz I'm nervous...even though I appear and seem calm, I still get a little nervous during the early parts of the conversation). Jesse's NVSC series states that people speed up their speech when they get nervous, but I'm the opposite. My speech speeds up when I'm comfortable and slows down when I'm nervous...funny.

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Best,
Av

Hey av i have listened to your audio recordings and you speak very clear and sound very confident. But i think you should become a bit less friendly and work on creating a sexual vibe with each girl you meet almost like you are preselected. I know this has been suggested to you before but if you want to get a date with a hot chick you gotta spend less time in the interaction,instead offer her to join you for coffee so that you can be more at ease with yourself and will have her full attention on you.Then arrange to meet up with her later that night or the following night.

Another thing that i noticed is that you used to many routines that just made you sound too rehearsed. Try not to be so lovey dovey and agreeable with each girl. Otherwise they will think you are trying to make a good impression by being agreeable.

I like how you weren't short of words and there were very few silences in your conversations.

JK

Karea, i couldn't agree more. Everytime i nailed a girl (not very often) it was because i was able to create a sexual vibe that she couldn't walk away from, whether it was on the dance floor- non verbal cues, or the way i held myself as i spoke to her- strong eye contact and i am the shit attitude!. To me it was all about conveying a stong sexual presence, the right attitude, not what i was saying.

Av, if you can spend more time on inner game, how you see yourself to be some kind of sex god and convey that through body language, you don't have to say alot to make her feel intrigued. Be bold and daring.

For starters, if you want to feel sexually dominant and care-free, go out and ask 10 girls to have sex with you. That will no doubh put you in a sexual frame of mind and might abolish any traces of neediness, lovey dovey behaviour, and fear of rejection!! Definitely worked for me anyway.

JK