Here are parts of a Cliffslist Newsletter article that I found interesting. I am GLAD that someone is mentioning something about us MEN improving ourselves, not ONLY with women, but, our personal selves and how we feel and think about ourselves; do we LIKE ourselves and do WE provide GOOD info and modeling for other MEN. Jesse and this Forum has done GREAT things for me in my personal development.:thumbup: Here's the article: To say that a lot of women today give out defensive-aggressive signals. From my knowledge of Europe, this is maybe worst in London (Note: Ah-Hah, FM, you are in the wrong city):lol:. I daresay New York is worse still. It is a cover for insecurity. Probably not too hard to get past it, but unless you want an insecure woman, why bother ? What this whole PUA community has grown into from my perspective is a field of personal development filled with guys who are passionately committed to becoming the best people they can be. Jim Rohn says, "Work harder on yourself than you do on your job." Well I say, "Work harder on yourself than you do on meeting women." And the women WILL come, but that's not the POINT of this for me ... This field of knowledge is way more important than meeting women. It really IS about becoming the best men we can be, which goes far beyond improving our lives, or even improving the experiences that we give to the women that we meet. As a matter of fact, the impact of becoming the best people we can be is so far-reaching that I can't even begin to explain it. Becoming physically, psychologically, socially, and emotionally healthier allows you to be a better son, father, business man, employee, leader, mentor, role model, boyfriend, husband, friend, and so on. It allows people to learn from you, be inspired by you, be empowered by you, receive guidance from you. A lot of guys at a deep level realize the truth that when you sort out this area of your life called "women and dating," a lot of the other areas of your life start coming together as well. It's no coincidence, either, that women are instinctively drawn to men who have their acts together ! So get your act together, but not just for the sake of women … for your own sakes, for your families' sakes, for the sake of the whole world ! This isn't about lines or techniques. It goes way deeper than that. This is about being the best men we can be, and there's nothing cheesy or phony about that. As a matter of fact, I can't think of a single thing more worthwhile to our collective time, energy and effort ! Ghandi said, "Be the change you wish to see in the world." I know that we all have the opportunity to do just that ! And with awesome mentors like David D. (Hot Topic Media, Inc.), Adam Gilad (http://www.cliffslist.com/link/ku), Sinn (How to Approach & Attract Women), and others around us (just some of my personal favorites), that process has become a hell of a lot easier ! AB: As a guy in Barron's age range (55), I do think that women in the "old days" were different. Nicer. Today they are told by magazines and TV that they are great. They should go out there and not settle. They deserve only the best ! So what happens is that many women (especially younger women, but also older) buy into this, and develop an ego ... even the ones that are not all that hot. I say this based on my experiences. I have dated several women in their twenties. I find it interesting that most men I know have low self-esteem, while most of the women have egos the size of Toledo Ohio. Still, we love them all.
Tips for being a better PUA: Be neat & clean - Not looking like Brad Pitt is okay.. Just don't smell bad and don't have dirty nails. Exercise - No, it's okay not to be Arnold or Ronnie Coleman.. Just don't look like all you do is stay on the couch 24/7 Be confident - Nooo.. It's really not necessary to stand in the middle of the street with your shirt and pants off.. Just know how to stand, walk and talk properly Tips for self-improvement: See above...
I remember, Tiger, saying something to the effect, that this PUA stuff is a VERY small community. Meaning, MOST people DO NOT understand it and have the WRONG impression of it. I think it is ALL about being a better MAN in our society. It includes being able to create hard-attraction (Oh, I LOVE-IT!), and liking yourself. You must remember, that the guy who wrote the article for CliffsList is expressing his own opinions... some, MAY NOT be TRUE. (Notice he mentioned about the women in London, England and NY City.) When he said that MOST of the men he knows have low self-esteem; Sadly, I agree with him. TM
London is tough indeed . Gaming here can only make me stronger !!!! I was chatting to a russian girl the other day and she said she got hit on by 12 guys in the space of 3 hour whilst walking through trafalgar square, in London (this is an area that is haunted by community and pua guys). Its know wonder women are acting so bitchy. Whats it like in the USA ? I dont like this term PUA. I mean our grandfathers did ok picking up girls before the community came along they never used routines and pickup lines.
What's it like in the USA? I am going to go along with your perspective, FM, of women, as you last mentioned. I think you said, one woman will be bitchy while 6 other women will be friendly. I don't know when PUA was first used. I think it defines a man who is developing his skills in PU. It also defines a man who will teach men how to PU women. I don't know if our grandfathers used pick-up lines and such. I read that 100+ years ago, most men were taught by their father (or other person) about sexuality with women. (I doubt if it was very good, though). But, for the past 100 years, not much attention has been placed in this idea. There may be reasons for this, such as, a lack of a father/role model. TM
Great thread guys. I wasted alot of years trying to be a different person before it finally dawned on me that i can only be myself and what i mean by that is the best version of myself.
