First night out on my own in months...

So I was sitting here reading a bunch of Jesse's stuff, then I came accross his "The #1 Reason Why Guy's Don't Get Laid"... Needless to say I decided to have a shower and go out to the local RSL nearby. Told myself that I'll only stay till 11pm at the latest, mind you I didn't get there till 9.

I didn't really go out to get laid, just went out to make the rest of my day extraordinary... So while I was watching Kung Fu Panda (It may have been the movie after) while having my 2nd beer and just finishing a smoke, this old man comes over, older than my dad, but only has the grey hair, poor posture and receding hairline, other than that he could've passed for a late 40's early 50's guy.

Turns out that this guy, Scotsmen, probably became the best wingman I've ever had... Even though he was tanked, we got into talking, and once I told him I was a uni student, he paid for my drinks the rest of the night, must've got 4-5 drinks in total... even an extra $10 for my mum, his idea.

Anyway, to be honest I didn't pay him much heed but was polite as usual... Thats when these 2 Italian girls sat nearby, I had checked em out before, they asked for a light... Scotsmen beat me to it didn't he, and not only that, the fucker started singing... and this girl was hooked... smiling and feeling special, her friend was enjoying it too... They even asked if I was his son... I don't want to seem like I'm full of shit, but the way I figure it, these girls where around my age at least, caught me looking earlier, giving them a smile, so they probably took this oppurtunity to try and talk to me... If anyone's got any other suggestions let me know, I don't want to be delussional ya know...

Anyway, didnt talk to the Italian girls, went in and bought me and Scotsmen another drink, his shout from now on in... When I came back they had lost interest in him and were talking amongst themselves... But that wasn't the last of it, a little while later, still drinking and smoking with this fella, a different group of ladies sits where the Italian girls did, there were four of them, and in a few moments this guy stood up and said to them all "Excuse me ladies. Why are you so beautiful, yet I am made of stone?", his common opener with them I'd soon find out... I took notice of this carefully, he paid most attention to the woman without the looks, seems her more attractive girlfriend got a little jealous, although she was impressed with this guy... Hell, so was I, I felt I was in the presence of a master, drunk as he was anyway... Again I got asked if this guy was my dad... I told them no, though I remained where I sat (I held back alot this night...) and he even told them that I was Brad Pitt, they all had a giggle, but soon that conversation died too... By this time I felt I was beginning to cock-block this guy... Wouldn't you agree?

Anyway, about an hour passes, maybe more maybe less, I didnt keep track, there was no clock and I stopped watching the tv... We had moved benches to the next one over... And wouldn't you guess it, this woman sat nearby, turns out her name was Jenny... Yes the Scotsmen sang again, and yes she asked if he was my father... Anyway, she sticks around, and soon her friends come out, only theres a girl around my age with them... Turns out it was this girls mother's birthday, hence the reason for them all being there... Scotsmen, upon hearing this embarks to buy her a glass of wine (Plastic cup I should say... this means it was after 11pm)... Anyway, the mother had left at the time but the others stuck around, Jenny, the daughter and this other woman, who was a bit drunk and was really interested in the Scotsmen by the look of things, she even started singing with the guy... Hell, we all ended up singing Bohemian Rhapsody... It was alright, and the daughter was pretty hot... Anyway, I blew it with this girl too... Well I think she was interested, she did end up putting some pink lip gloss on to make her lips shine, and she did try talking to me when I sat next to her... Reading too much into it?

Although I have missed out a nice little thing I had going... Before we moved benches, the Scotsmen went in to grab a few drinks for us, and these two mature-age ladies (56), came over and had a smoke and were talking to me and amongst themselves, I gave a few comments here and there... What can I say, I suck at conversation... turns out the 56-year-old cop... yeah... and her name was Rozz... if you've read A Clockwork Orange, you'd probably know my skepticism... Anyway, they were talking about Rozz marrying some 66 year old dude, getting in his will and killing him... her friend wasnt into it... but Rozz sure gave a few examples of who she knows thats done something like that... Shortly after shaking hands and giving eachothers names, they went back to the dancefloor inside... This woman did come back though, everytime she came out for a smoke, 3-4 times in total... she would come sit with me and talk... One point I even offered my seat... We were hitting it off alright, she told me she used to be an exotic dancer, about her tattoos that I touched and asked about... I probably could've made out with this woman, shit I don't know, I think she wanted me?... Anyway, thats why I think the daughter put the lip gloss on, to try and attract me more as this happened when we were talking and singing to her group... Does that sound about right? I still don't know, I think it makes sense... right?

Anyway, these ladies soon went home... and it was just me and this guy again... Sure I talked to Rozz again... But as I looked around, I saw this hottie by herself about to have a smoke... Finally I grew some balls and went over and talked to this girl... To be honest I think I did pretty good with this girl, always throwing off what she was talking about, she was a single mum so I talked about my brother and his missus about to have there second child... and hes three years younger than me... this girl was 28... just moved up from VIC... and i think living with her grandmother, well thats who was minding her daughter... I was flirty, touching this girl a little every now and then... She even called me an asshole, jokingly though, she was talking about the other guys that had approached her that night... she said she wasn't good with the approach... With this girl I even got close enough to kiss her... I probably should've after learning her name, I got that vibe from her... She even showed me a photo of her baby girl... But I think my failure to up the ante, i.e. kiss the girl made her lose interest, we didnt talk again that night, but left on good terms... I think... So did I do the right thing guys? Do you think I should've uped the ante when I had the chance? I kinda think I should've...Mind you this was near 3am and I was a bit drunk...

Anyway after leaving this girl, turns out my wingman disappeared, figured he went home... So I went to go buy a drink and go back outside for another smoke... While there, I saw this hot little blonde and smiled... she said "Oh my god" and covered her mouth laughing and going forward on the bench... Figure she told the guy she was with, who had his back to me, cause he turned his back and stared me down, I just stood there smiling, so did she, even though she kinda hid behind this guys head... He said "How you doin mate?" and turned back... I finished my beer, walked out to get a taxi, and went on home... Only to find out I could only sleep for a couple of hours before getting up at 8am, wanting it to be at least 7, so I could go to my extra class for uni this morning.

So I figure to have a better night next time, I should do what I did with the 28-year-old and talk to girls more, offer to buy them a drink or kiss them when I get the chance, something ya know... But I don't really know how yet, I'll learn

Whoa dude!

Glad you had a good time with the Scot, but it sounds like you just sat around smoking and watching TV all nite man...

Those girls don't give a shit if you were the dudes son. They were asking to get YOU into the conversation. They were trying to make it easy for you in a socially acceptable manner.

Don't bail on talking to girls. Period. Just walk up, say hi, exchange names. No expectations. I suck at conversations too, but I don't care. Just be social, it sounds like these girls wanted to talk to you.

Also, NO BUYING DRINKS unless the chick EARNS it. I may sound like an ass, but if a girl asks me for something my attitude is "so what have you done for me today?"

So do the reverse of what you said at the end. Introduce youself to girls, chill, don't offer to get them shit, if you think you could've kissed her, you probably should have.

If any girl in my immediate vicinity put on lip gloss and was looking at me, I would assume she is thinking what every other girl is thinking.......to get on her knees and blow me. (this statement reflects my preception of reality LOL, even if it is highly exaggerated...)

Good luck, get back out there and Make Opportunites! We all want you to succeed.:thumbup:

Thanks for the words Earl, you gave me the kinda thing I wanted to hear... you know that I wasn't being so dellusional about the way I perceived the way things were going that night, I probably missed out on some good oppurtunities too...

yeah I probably did spend alot of time smoking and watching TV... But the fact that most, if not all the girls were talking to me and asking questions and all about being this guys son, I kinda got that feeling that I should've made an effort to get involved in the conversation... But I kept freezing up, it sucked balls man lol... All in all I think it was a good learning experience in the end of it all, it allowed me to see where I went wrong and what I can do to improve for the next time ya know

lol, next time I see a girl put lip gloss on and look at me, I'm totally gunna think she wants to blow me... such a great way to put it dude

Yeah, it is difficult to keep that constant thought-loop going too while you are talking. You can never go wrong with saying "hey!" and shaking hands. I feel confident that I can get my foot in the door and introduce myself to any girl and be cool about it. Problem is, I seldom notice girls trying to chit chat me, so when that happens for you---take advantage.

Keeping the ball going is tough for me too, because I just go in with "Hi" or "You're cute." Everytime I have tried to plan a story or some topic to talk about, the set always drifts somewhere you don't expect, so you have to adapt because you are talking to different PEOPLE. The more you can get the girl talking, the better. What helped me, as I am working on Approach+Isolate now, is having a goal of a number of girls you want to talk to. If I go to a bar, I NEVER sit or watch TV, etc. I go up to the first group of girls. If an hour goes by and I have talked to all the cute girls and nothing panned out...I leave. Simple, but bars in my area close around midnight.

But if I were you, I would re-read those lessons....buying the drinks, asking if it's ok to chat, looking for the girls to make the first move are all the ANTI-THESIS of Game.

Some more members may chime in, as I'm flawed in that I can give advice, but not take it LOL