friend needs help please

hi guys,

i am using this link becase my friend let me...

i appreite oyur concen.... and i really need helllllllp...!!!

please advice... here it is>>>

hI everyone
My girlfriend informed me of some shitty news here is how it went
We had an appt to meet but then she cancelled because the day before she got eye tattoo. I didnt reply to her cancelling so she called and asked where I was I answered cheerfully I am with friends so she said well maybe I can go and then decided to come.
When she arrived I had her laughing and she was flirting with me so much we were talking about getting a puppy and attending the oasis concert.so I asked her after 2 hrs why dont we go to a place around my area she then smiled and said we need to talk. She then asked is there somewhere romantic we can go to not knowing what I was being set up for i took her to one of my hangouts. By this time I was already drunk remember I thought we were out to have a good time.
Anyway she brought up the fact she doesnt want to have sex until she is married because of some really bad experiences which she shared a couple of them she was pretty much raped at one time.. so after she tells me this she brings up the punch line knock out I slept with one of my friends when we broke up!! point to remember she broke it off at 1 30 am when she was going home so she had sex with him before she broke up with me so she CHEATED however then she started pressuring me to forgive her but I was drunk and ah gave her a hard time I asked her if she gets stressed or angry is this what she is going to do and she said dont make me angry. She openly admits she has sex with friends when she is stressed or angry.but I couldnt let it go she wanted me to forgive her in 10 mins so when I kept bringing it up she said ok we are finished and broke up with me I ended up getting so emotional when I was drunk and I started to try and get her back I then made the mistake of tossing my laptop on the ground twice I know not smart.. she then turned it all around on me and made me feel like shit I told her most guys would have reacted worse then what I did however I feel I was justified to be angry.
The next morning I woke up still feeling guilty about what I did. So I texted her and called her and begged for her to give me one more chance. WUS syndrome. she said 2 choices be friends or nothing and let her go so I said ok she wins The whole time I begged for her I blamed myself for my actions and what I did. not what she had done. I went back to bed and woke up hours later and spoke to a friend and he told she cheated you had every right to be angry but should not have tossed your laptop. but at least u didnt hit her.
So after some thought I was to meet her to get my laptop back cause i tossed it in the elevator. b
before I met her I wrote her the following letter

My head has finally cleared from all the nonsense of last night..

I think you have wanted to break up for a long time and maybe did not know how to say it.

Last night you made me feel really good about myself. We were having a great time we talked about getting a puppy and going to Oasis and then you asked me to go to a romantic place making me believe all week and last night we were ok but then you told me that very hurtful news you basically took a knife and stabbed me when you told me last night you cheated on me.

It is one of the worst sins someone can do in a relationship. Especially after I had told you about my past girlfriend and how my mother’s abandoned me. I opened my heart to you How could you do this? I feel like a fool and I had been taken advantage of, especially last night when you pressured me to forgive you. You tell me that you don’t want to be physical with me but then had sex with another guy was this some twisted way of punishing me

How could you think last night I would forgive you so easily for this? You didn’t give me time to think or let me be angry about what you had done instead you broke up with me because I kept talking about it which made things worse. You made the mistake and made it seem like it was my fault. I was disappointed and hurt you should have understood that what you did is not forgivable in 10 mins. I know my temper was a little out of control but I feel I was well justified and within my rights to do so. I know a lot of men would have done a lot worse things than what I did if there girlfriend did this to them. If I did this to you I know you would not talk to me for awhile or maybe ever.

I am not sure what is really going on inside you and what happened in your past. But I really believe some boys must have really hurt you to make you this way.

I never wanted to use you for sex if I had we would have been done a long time ago I respected you. However on that note I have been very patient about the sex but you had done it with another guy which makes me feel worthless.

I’m really sorry and upset that things couldn’t work out between us.

I don’t think I am the kind of man you are looking for. I have a great heart, good personality, trustworthy, outgoing, funny, and caring.

I wish you would have just told me you wanted to break up in a nice way instead of leaving this last impression of you.

I wish you all the best in your life and you can learn to respect yourself.

her response,

Thank you for the letter that makes me feel like a really bad girl but ur right I am sorry for everything I did to you, you might spam my number I hope that you find a good girlfriend who loves you sorry

My response THERE WAS NONE haha

I like her but I am not going to forgive her right away and she should not be trying to do it over text email or phone I will ignore her calls text messages for awhile and start working on myself more now maybe will take her back and maybe not who knows but I realize now she had no right to make this my fault I dont deserve this treatment at all and if she is unable to change then we can not be togethere..

Oh and when I picked up my computer today I wore my nice black suit wore my cologne she bought me and as well I sprayed it on the letter..

lasting impressions now she will remember me as the guy she screwed over and now she knows I can live with out her if I choose..

Does anyone have a word to say about her response?
I want her back but things need to change she must want to have a physical relationship with me and make time to see me.
I have been very maybe too understanding of her situation
I am willing to let her go but I want to be with her as well but I dont want her to think it is okay to do what she did.
How long should I make her wait? I know I wont answer her text or phone calls for awhile and at what point do I answer.. She has to contact me and I want her to stew about what she has done I know by this letter she is going to feel like shit

If I am available or want to take her back I will decide then I am going to work on getting rid of wus syndrome and learn from all the jedi I can I want to do a boot camp where we actually do field work..

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So what? Your job is to be happy not to hand out little lessons to people.

You also mention you want to work on yourself. How? What are you planning to do?

This is probably not what you want to hear, but you did ask us.

As for the girl, that situation seems lost.

AK

yus! i was going to say this, but i didn't want to express that "women are disposable" mentality

move on brother!

AK and Alaskanmana are both getting at the same point here: Get rid of your vixtim mentality - it is not healthy! Righteousness is coming from teh belief that things should be fair - that you are inherently entitled to a certain respect from others - and this comes from your past, teh way you have been disrepected, which makes you feel victimised.

A real man does not blame others, he is in control of his environment, he does not seek sympathy, he is independent and responsible. Only you can be relied upon to get you what you want in life.

You see the difference between a boy and a man is the boy needs others to get through life - he is young and doesn't understand his environment - he gets support from his parents when he finds it tough. A man has learnt his environment and so no longer needs support - he is in control of his environment and so instead can support others, such as his children.

Your mother perhaps abandoned you when you were still in need of support in life, i.e. you had not gained a lot of control over your environment. So to improve as a person first thing you need to do is try to get rid of your entitlemnet syndrome.

Alaskanmana is a good role model here - perhaps because he has children, which would help force one out of entitlement syndrome.

But if you want to continue to get advice from people like AK and alaskanmana you really should purchase something from Jesse.


sure dude - it must have felt stink as. I'm sure you can be man enough to get over it though. Think of all teh otehr sexy women you can get

where can i buy something?? and response to your advice.

I do want to buy something from Jesse but where do I buy something the bacchanali site?
I really want to join this forum with proper respect to Jesse..
As for your replies thankyou..
I am going for counselling next month and taking a 3 day course for paradigm not really sure how or what it is but I really do want to change my life.
The reason I told her those things is because she was blaming me for being upset about her cheating on me
I do know I have alot of work to do on myself and healing.
All the people I have met always tell me I am a really good guy and I am too understanding sometimes..
I am not out to hurt anyone I do genuinely want a healthy relationship but sometimes I do not know how and when I should be disapproving ones actions
When I learn how to play the game it is to help and prevent me from failing relationships and making the same mistakes.
I want to call her as I see it is partly my fault for things that happened.
I am a man and I can admit my own faults just sometimes I need time to think.
she said maybe you will spam my number does this mean she still wants to talk to me and should I reply to her that I will not spam her number...
I honestly do not know how to get on here last time we tried there was an advertisement about a camp any ideas?

i'm not sure if there is a place where all the products are or not - I've had similar problems in the past tryig to find products.

however these work for some of teh individual products:

http://www.seductionscience.com/deepinnergame

http://www.seductionscience.com/archetypes

http://www.seductionscience.com/getthegirlfriend - note this includes "deep inner game" and teh basic manual

http://www.seductionscience.com/blissnosis

I couldn't work out how to get the nonverbal sexual cues program, nor the basic seductionscience manual on its own. I'm not sure if he has other books out that don't come as free bonuses for other products.

Private message Jesse Charger or Karea.

I know there used to be a page with all teh prioducts but I think it used to be http://www.seductionscience.com - which doesn't take you to a page with all the products any more.

I think marketing-wise they don't want to show all teh products because tehn people will think they need them all to be successful and tehy'll shy off, whereas if tehy don't know about all the products they might buy one thinking it'll fix em and then find out later about subsequent ones and buy tehm too.

I know it is common for tehse online marketers to do such things, but my reason why is just a guess.

thank you~

hey guys,

thanks a lot- my friend finally bought some products- he is now our new member as 'ENIGMATIC'.

thank you!!

if you want to work on yourself...

hows your relationship with your father? i noticed you mentioned your mother abandoning you? do you love him? hate him? was he a solid man or was he a wuss? be honest.

who was your mother growing up? was it your father, is he the only figure you know that a women is supposed to be like?

getting over your wuss syndrom, comes down to how your were conditioned your whole life and how you lived it and how your going to change the meanings you give events/situations.

if you try and teach this girl a lesson and it works, then that will anchor itself to you and anytime you come across a situation where you see the pattern of a girl misbehaving, you will keep doing it, even if in reality she did nothing wrong, its because the meaning you have giving it.

AKM is dead on with the mother abandoning you at birth, you have suppressed emotions that you release, and have had lots of issues with women because of this. even if you do not notice it consciously, your subconscious does and it bites people, and you have no idea when or why its happening.

to change that you need to change the meaning you give to your mother abandoning you, but before i go on with this i want to know, how do you really feel about her abandoning you at birth?

what has it cost you in your life?
how has it shaped your life?
and what do you think will happen in the future as a result of this meaning/feeling not changing in your life?