Question Great relation but sudden end ! Too complex situation! Help Please!

Discussion in 'Girlfriend Relationships' started by spark, Aug 14, 2012.

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Do you think is it worth to make an attempt to save the relation?

Poll closed Aug 21, 2012.
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  1. Breezy

    spark New Member

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    Hey!
    Firstly, Thanks for being there to help! You are fantastic man !

    Here is my problem:
    I met a girl few months back, we both were highly attracted to each other and she became my girl friend. As days passed, i think, a mistake that i did was, i treated her like a princess... you know, too much expression of love sort of thing.
    At this very same time, i discovered that, she had made a 3 day boyfriend before me whom she was not able 2 forget because he ditched her and now she thought she loved him and at the same time wanted to be with me. The real thing was, she was not able to cope up with the feeling of being ditched.

    This confusion finally led to our break up and she being single, despite the fact that she still had great affection for me. She said "i want to be single, i am happy" ...! I accepted this like, unfortunately, a nice guy... Until this moment, she still had attraction towards me, she missed me, messaged me but was not ready to be with me, but alone.

    i tried console her and help her move on but she was too tough. i tried to make my intensions clear but we used to end up fighting...
    I kept on treating her like a princess despite this. (again my mistake)
    So the present situation is, She has become kind of resistant towards making a boy friend because she was ditched & now, she is becoming kind of egoistic because of my nice guy behaviour. I am seeing that a great bond of attraction is now coming to end due to all this!! HELP !

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  2. Breezy

    spark New Member

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    And yeah! I did became the one who was doing a lot of chasing!! :\ Earlier she used to send me good night messages and many other messages and used to even lie to others to meet me secretly...! Now, she does not want to even meet me...! And texts are making thing worse.
    Would just make a point here that: once i went to meet her without her knowing about it (yeah kind of surprise visit), initially, she was resistant, but then i felt she was liking my company... But that meeting did not have any lasting good effect (just a momentary attraction maybe) ... her attitude became negative again, the next day itself...!
  3. Angelic

    Jesse Charger Administrator

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    You should always try again. What do you have to lose? Nothing. So just keep trying.

    At the same time, you need to get your mind out of just this one girl and open up your options. You're coming across as needy because you have no other sexual options, the girl can feel that neediness coming through, and it's grossing her out. No girl wants to sleep with a needy guy with no other sexual options, no more than you want a 300 pound girl with a terrible diet of ice-cream and taco bell to obsess over you.
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  4. Breezy

    spark New Member

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    Yeah!! You are absolutely correct...! But how should i go about it ?? Should i wait for some time to get the negativity reduced ? Umm.. Should i opt for some more surprise visits to talk to her ?? Because, the problem is, she says "she is happy being single, without any man "( i wonder is this really possible ? o_O ) ... how to change this mind set ?
    Frankly speaking, i am a bit upset about this .

    And by the way, yeah! I have already started opening my options... The funny thing is, some of them are not even single :p

    PS: I think, i am missing a important point that i must mention, We both are high school students.. I am 18, and she is 17..
  5. Angelic

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    Yeah, maybe give it a few days... but for YOU to cool off a little. You're a little too worked up about this girl and you need to chill a little.

    Every girl wants to find a man. She only says to you because she doesn't want to date you. She's trying to tell you in a nice way to go away without hurting your feelings.

    You're emotionally affected by her, which is a surefire sign you probably can't get her. Until you can remain emotionally calm and unreactive to her positive signals and negative signals toward you, you're going to have a lot of trouble and you'll be on an emotional rollercoaster. Not good.

    That's awesome dude

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    You're a young guy. You still have tons of time to learn this stuff. :D
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  6. Breezy

    spark New Member

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    Thanks Man !!
  7. Breezy

    spark New Member

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    UPDATE !!!


    I went completely cold turkey... no chats.. no texts..no talking for a month..!! The results seem to be positive yet.. very confusing for me...!! NEED URGENT HELP... DON'T KNOW HOW TO PROCEED.. I AM BLANK !! Here is what is happening:

    After not talking to her for about a month... She started to miss me! How i know this is that she started to chat with my very close friend to know how am i doing... hows everything etc. Also, she also tells him, that she regrets not being in conversation with me... she is sad that she is not able to talk to me...!!

    BUT.. here comes the confusing part..!!
    She says " I am very unlucky girl, just due to relationships & all these things, i lose great guys like spark(that's me)... This really sucks" ...!! So my friend asked, who's fault is it.. so she says "Love's fault.. it spoils everything" !!

    And then, again this is really weird... She sort of talk unrealistically, seems, she has very low opinions about herself... (i really don't know what makes her think such rubbish things) !! She says " I am a very foolish and useless girl... And that's why i think, if a boy would like me, he is also a fool...how can he like someone like me"... This is absolutely disgusting !!


    This makes my head go round... on one hand she misses me and on the other hand... she speaks all these senseless things( i am sure, she doesn't even know what they mean and why she is saying them..she says just for the sake of it.. to become and act unnecessarily philosophical.. :/ ) ....!!

    NOW WHAT?? Should i continue being unavailable or what? confused...!! tell me what to do man ?? :/
  8. Angelic

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    You should make yourself available now. You should just lead. Stop listening to all the nonsense and bullshit coming out of her mouth and trying to "figure her out". everything out of her mouth is ridiculous fucking nonsense. Stop taking it seriously. She'll think one thing one moment, and another thing another moment. Consider her brain and emotions useless idiocy. She's a young girl and has no idea what she wants or who she is. Her thoughts and emotions are completely flighty and all over the place.

    In addition, you have to man up with your own emotions. This girl is leading your emotions all over the place. That is retarded. She's an emotional mess, has no control over her emotions, and yet she's leading you. Do you think that's sexy to her? It's a complete turn off.

    You've got to go in there and just do what you want - physically lead her, talk about what you want to talk about - and completely ignore her reactions. You've got to to be steady and unreactive. Then she'll fuck you in a heart beat.

    Girls like this, they want a STEADY guy... a guy who won't emotionally react to their nonsense and stupid drama.

    Call her up and tell her to meet you at the zoo. Don't ask her, just tell her like it's going to happen. You already know she likes you, so she'll say yes. Lead, lead, lead. Don't listen to her, don't wait for her reactions, don't look for her permission. She wants a strong man that leads and is unreactive. That's what will turn her on.
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  9. Artistic

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    Hey Spark,

    I was thinking that you should 1st do what Jessy said, and also to be a bit more of a jerk to see what happens.

    What I would suggest you to do is:

    1) next time she agrees to do something with you, do as her ex and ditch her, saying later that "your mam wanted you to come with her to Disney Land" or something like that (specially if it does not make sense).

    2) find a girl who will be willing to make out with you in front of her, as if you haven't noticed that she is not there, lol.

    3) find a dirky nick name for her =P

    and finally this is not going to be a 4) but something apart, try not to look for a relationship with this girl (or at least talk as if it was a relationship you are looking for), but rather treat her as a girl who you can hook up with, but nothing more! In this case, it will help if you actually tell her that. Make real sure that she knows (by saying no she will want you to say yes. Never give in if it starts to work).

    Look, how I see it is: by continuing being a nice guy you are just gonna go into a friend zone or ignore the nice guy zone, and by playing other side, you just may get her brian going in counter-intuitive female way :D

    Cheers!

    (PS: if you think that there is something to what I'm saying, and you are desperate to give it a shot, write it actually down the papa Tiger wisdom and carry that paper with you. Call it <<insert name, 17yr girl paper>>)
  10. Relaxed

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    All that chat and emotional talk with your friend just means one thing... She wants you back and she wanted to let you know that she's waiting for you to do something. She's kinda messed up and that makes it the perfect time for you to take the reins and be in charge. And quoting Jesse here... lead, lead, lead
  11. Breezy

    spark New Member

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    You people are fabulous !! Seriously Fabulous !! And guess what ? I was successful ...!!
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  12. Artistic

    Tiger Well-Known Member

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    ohohoh, tell me more :)
  13. Angelic

    Jesse Charger Administrator

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    what happened ?
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  14. Relaxed

    Mark Montana New Member

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    Awesome! Let us in on the details please. :)
  15. Breezy

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    I am REALLY SORRY for replying soo late !! REALLY SORRY !! but this is what happened...!! Initially, like i had told i was being the one who was constantly chasing and trying hard for her...! But this time, after a short conversation i did not speak to her for a very very long time although my 'happy presence' was constantly seen by her... so after a long while, during a festive season... i dropped her a message... ( to give festive greetings, in an energetic yet self-satisfied tone )... i did get her reply, but this time, i ended the conversation very soon...!! To my surprise, next day i found her here at our apartment... So this time i went as a confident guy who was not needy... initially, she was a bit scared, confused and did not know what to do and react... So, after saying a 'Hi'... she just started to mix up with 'very small' kids playing around... This time, with positivity (like a man), went, got involved and created a fun - environment (the challenge was that she was surrounded by orthodox people... yeah.. Ours is a bit orthodox country) ... But still i managed to do it... and you know, started gaming... touching, flirting a bit, and then "a Final Beaming Eye contact with a smile on my face" ... She blushed !! and at that moment... i felt that the negativity in both of our mind that prevalent has gone...!! So, after this, i spent few more moments and then left the place with my friend saying her a quick bye...!! (so, yeah.. unlike earlier times, i was the first to leave) ... { now, two days after this were tough for me... since, my inner self was shouting "get her quick get her quick"... but then i needed to be composed and relaxed...so although i wanted to message her... i did not...!! Luckily, the 3rd day after this event, came my birthday, which she forgot..! {This was the catalyst... yeah... i was lucky because she forgot my birthday} ...!! So, after the birth day came to an end... i messaged a line to her " i thought u will wish me happy birthday " ...!! Reading this next day, she was absolutely stunned and confused... and this made her start to secretly chase me while trying to correct her mistake...!! I did not make her life easy by becoming easily available... when she messaged me, i did not reply... then she called my friend so that he can help, so i secretly told my friend that no help should be given ... So, i made the chasing tough for her, and yet she struggled to reach me... she directly came to my house ( without caring about the orthodox environment )... Then, i nicely met with her... and we enjoyed together ... guitar and all etc. etc. After this meeting, gradually we met more frequently... and finally "Happy Ending" !! :D
  16. Angelic

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    Nice! Sounds like you should write this up in the "Lay Reports" forum (y)
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