Holding out

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  1. Jazz Active Member

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    Got a question for you all :

    My current girlfriend seems to be holding out on me for some reason.

    When we first met, the sex came often, and it was great sex.

    Lately things have died down alot, and she doesnt seem interested anymore?
    Ive tried to reverse the power and hold out on her, but being a guy, that doesnt usually last long, and i always go crawling back for more (and i always kick myself afterwards!)

    I speak to her often during the day via email, and i always give her hints about what im going to do tonight to her, and she usually replies with a neutral or positive response, but when we get home and i start making moves, she gives me the cold shoulder and makes up the "im tired" excuse.

    Ive even tried NOT emailing her and trying to freeze her out, but it doesnt work, and it seems that she always has the upper hand on me!

    (On a side note, she's on of those FUCKING STUBBORN people that doesnt back down or give in!)

    If we have an arguement, she always refuses to apologise, even when its so fucking obvious she was wrong! We end up not talking for a few days, and then things just seem to slide back to normal without any apologies.

    Im running outa options here guys, and i wanted to try sort this out myself, and im coming to you guys as a LAST RESORT!

    I know most of you havent had or dont believe in LTR's, but there are also some that have/do, and i need some advise from them!

    (Another side note : Ive gone down on her a few times because its something i enjoy doing, but she doesnt seem to be enthusiastic about returning the favour <something about past experiences and her not liking the taste in her mouth>)
    Im fucking lost as to how to deal with this!
  2. VULCANO New Member

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    what about bliss ?

    ok first of all , DO YOU HAVE BLISSNOSIS ???
    AND DID YOU ALREADY USED SOME OF THE STUFF ,?
    cause in my experience this shit really work man , and she begs for more if you tease here in bed ... for instant ;

    - rub your dick over her pussy/clit , and let her begg for you to put lil jhonny in , lol

    -when you kiss her , you can also tease her , i think karea has a nice trick about teasing kiss

    -don't me even get started how you can make her wet , when you kiss her breast.... there is a space under the breast , that most guys forget to kiss (very sensitve ) , and lick her breast in spirals to the nipple , cuz a womens breast has spiral nerve system on the breast ! just don't lick the nipples right away man . you do know that don't you ?
    this stuff i learned from this site , and it is gold for me so use it , if you aren't already using it , cava ?

    anyway , don't have a lot of time right now ,
    but i'm sure the other guys are on the way for helping ya

    keep it unreal nigga , lol

    btw, sorry for all the typo fault i made , :)
    grtz kulver
  3. Jazz Active Member

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    Hey thanks for the effort man!

    I agree with the advise u have given me, but the thing is, we never get to the point where i can start teasing her and shit!

    For instance, when i start kissing her and teasing her (rubbing my hands on her thighs and close to her pussy <but NOT touching her pussy just yet>)then she just gives me the cold shoulder! :mad:

    Its like whenever she senses that i wana make love to her, she puts up resistance!

    Man this is so fucking confusing, coz she never used to be like this before!
    (Im thinking maybe she knows about the SS material, and she's trying to prove to me that she knows how im messing with her mind, and she wants revenge or something)

    I duno man, i feel like such a fool telling you guys this shit, coz it makes me sound like an AFC!
    But i AINT no chump!

    Anyone else been in any similar situations? :confused:
  4. theriddler New Member

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    OK this could be one of 2 problems. 1) There could be a lack of anticipation. To set things in motion you can start creating anticipation before you have even kissed her. Start with the soft touches etc and pull back (2 steps forward 1 step back - sure u familiar with it) start kissing her and then pull back. you get the idea, and this can go on for as long u need to.

    Girls are always ready to pounce on you for going to far and giving you the cold shoulder, the trick is to get her thinking " if he goes any further im gonna step in" but you never get that far, you keep pulling back before she gets the chance.Anticipation...she's waiting.

    Then you keep doing the same thing until she cant handle it anymore and SHE decides to escalate things.

    Ultimately you want her thinking about what you gonna do to her, without you actually doing it, anticipation!!! then she will be ready.

    PS: when she shows signs of getting in the mood, dont leave it all up her to do the escalating(those will be subtle), you still need to take charge and keep advancing.

    Secondly, it could very simply be a lack of attaction on her part.If you doing everything i just said and you still getting the cold shoulder this might be the problem.

    Iv got the Legendary Lover series which great, havent got blissnosis yet but from what iv heard it will put you on the right path.

    Hope it helps
    Riddler
  5. Jazz Active Member

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    Hey thanks riddler!

    Im gana give that a go! (Its seems so obvious when i read what you write to me, but at the time its happening, my mind tends to be set on one thing and one thing only...pussy!)

    I guess i gota learn to tease a little, coz usually when i start something with her, and i can see that she's the SLIGHT BIT interested, i tend to wana go all the way! (as you said...2 steps forward, 1 step back)

    This bitch is gana PAY!!! Mwooohahahah!
    Nah im kidding, but she's gana be sorry she started HEAD GAMES with the Jazz!

    Man if the MES i ordered came YESTERDAY it wouldnt be soon enough!
  6. theriddler New Member

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    Lol, anytime!
  7. Adam New Member

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    I'm confused. What do you want? Do you want to fuck or to make her happy? If the only thing on your mind is fucking then most likely at least on a subconscious level you will come across as pushy, so maybe that's why she resists you. Tease her, but give her space too. If she doesn't want sex, and enjoys the teasing then fine, do that for a bit. If she doesn't escalate as has been already said, sit her down and explain to her that you have sexual needs that need to be met. If she's not OK with you having sex with other girls, then you two will have to make some sort of compromise.

    I don't understand why people neglect the communication aspect of relationships. Be honest with her. Find out what she wants and likes. From what I see you writing, it sounds like a simple case of muddled communication. You said yourself she liked having sex with you. Maybe she wants you to show her that's not all you care about. *shrug* That's all I can say really. Good luck.

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  9. Jazz Active Member

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    I would appreciate as much help from you as possible!!

    As form a previous thread i posted, i was in two mind about whether i should get Blissnosis or MES, and alot of people suggested i get MES first, so ive ordered that!
    So to answer your question, NO i dont have blissnosis.

    Guys this is really fucked up! I duno if im explaining the situation properly or not, coz i find it hard to express myself properly in writing and shit...

    It just seems that some days shes hot and other days shes cold (towards sex that is)

    I know she likes being with me (coz im a fucking CATCH!), but i cant quite put my finger on whats going on.

    She also seems to lose her temper very easily and often has her bitch shield up (she could be shit-testing me...or it could just be PMS)


    Ive talked to her and told her that im a man and i have my needs and she answered with "i will try be more romantic from now on". Havent really seen much of a change so far!

    Im also having abit of trouble finding a balance between being cocky/funny and being a jerk...sometimes she takes my comment as a joke, other times she throws a tantrum and sulks with me for the rest of the day.

    (god...reading this makes me sound like a chump, but i can assure you, i aint NO chump! Ive come along way since when i first joined)

    Is there still hope to salvage our (coming on 1 1/2 years soon) relationship, or do i move on?

    Please help guys!

    (I just remembered that she commented on what a sexy body i have when i was changing in front of her to go shower... so this shows that she still has interest in me) I know i could have hit back at her with a sexual innuendo or something, but I just wasnt thinking straight)
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  11. Jazz Active Member

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    haha this feels like a dating interview...but im more than willing to oblige if it help you help me!

    Do you live together?YES we live in a share house together


    How old is she? turning 25 in april


    How old are you?turning 23 in march


    Does she consider herself a catch?no she doesnt...she has low self-esteem issues, but i take it's because she was treated like shit with her previous boyfriends


    Does she give a good blow job?i wouldnt know, she has yet to give me one


    How often are you having sex of any kind?We have sex about once a week, and i always go down on her coz i enjoy it so much!


    Does she cook?sometimes she cooks, sometimes i cook, depends who's in the mood really


    Does she clean? Do your laundry?yeah we both clean and do eachothers laundry

    Does she work?yes she works

    Do you work?yes i also work


    Do you ask for sex or just take it when you want it?In the beginning i used to ASK and basically BEG for sex (before i got SS ) Now i "take it when i want it" but she usually puts up resistance...not resistance in the form of pushing me off or anything, but she will sometimes just say UH UH (as in no)when she can see im trying to escalate.
    Another thing...If i playfully kiss her and tease her for abit and then pull back (expecting her to come to me for more) she will just lie there and not take things further.

    Do you let her dress you? Affect your style?She will sometimes comment on the clothes i wear and tell me if she approves or not, but i always dress myself how I want to dress!


    hahaha well I was kinda convinced that MES would be the first one to get,and then move onto Blissnosis... check it out

    Looking forward to your wise words of wisdom my friend (and anyone else's input for that matter!)
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  13. Jazz Active Member

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    Thanks alot for you help man!! i REALLY REALLY appreciate it!
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    I think i figured out what her problem is (and I feel abit bad)

    She got news awhile ago that one of her uncle's was terminally ill and only has a few weeks left to live, so i dont blame her for not wanting sex!

    She had kept the news from me until she knew 100% what was happening back home!

    Well im just gana give her her space until this whole thing blows over.

    But thanx to all you guys for trying to help me out!