Making money online! (not necessary related to dating)

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  1. Artistic

    Tiger Well-Known Member

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    Hey Jesse and guys!

    I say "Hi Jesse" because this is a topic I promised Jesse to start loong time ago. So here it is.

    Online Marketing is all about making money from a certain website, or a combination of websites that are linked together and support each other in bringing traffic to the website that will make profit for the owner.

    So Online Marketing is all about traffic. What is more important than traffic, is having relevant traffic and keeping the current and perspective clients to come back again and again to the website.

    The readers of this post, who are not here to actually read about e-commerce, might be starting to think that Jesse is manipulating them into coming back to his website for personal profit. Well, he is, and I guess its not a secret. But consider that Jesse is also offering you something interesting and special in return, so thats why you are here in the first place :cool:.

    Back to the matter at hand, there are many ways of bringing traffic to the website. The best way is, of course, by telling closest friends, who are already interested in such products and solutions that website offers them.

    After depleting the current list of contacts with information about the website, and asking them to spread the word, its time to go world wide! (internet remember? :lol:)

    SEO optimization is the first step to make the site more relevant for the people who are looking for the specific type of solutions offered by the website in the search engine (also for these who don't know, thats how Google makes money :rolleyes:).

    Second step is keeping them from "bouncing" or exiting away from the webpage before making a purchase.

    This is the other side of the coin.

    Site must be visually attractive, have relevant and interesting information, and to have a logical way for a person to go from reading website info to making a purchase or receiving enough information to make a purchase.

    Here, having Analytical tools help to improve overall performance, and to see what the website visitors really like and what is less attractive, in order to understand what is need to be improved and why.

    A call for action is always a good idea to have, but not to abuse it.
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    Jesse, I am sure you know all of this above, so I was curious to know about some specifics we could discuss.

    I expect that the main purpose of this topic is to see how you can make more money on internet, and I totally support it. My main interest here is also to learn about e-commerce (as I am just getting started myself), so for now I can only add that you have a client list, you have a blog, a forum, but I don't know of any webpage that would list all your products and services. Like a amazon.com selling platform.

    Probably you already though about it and concluded that you are better off the way you are, but in your position, I'd also think about other angle, from which people might want to buy something from you, but don't have a clear navigation to get to the end product.

    Cheers!
    Tiger
  2. TequilaMan Well-Known Member

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    Hey, Tiger...that's an interesting topic to talk about...e-commerce.

    TM
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    yes my favourite subject! ^^
    Because i make a living with making money online..

    if this thread should be about options to increase the $ per Visitor on Seductionscience i could add or list some points which are likely to increase earnings on SS...

    if this should be about something different, for example talking about some techniques or anything else just say about which topic you wanna talk...:)
  4. Angelic

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    Great post Tiger to kick off the topic.

    That's always a compromise of mine, laying out pure content versus having to lay out what will sell. I'd prefer never having to write "marketing copy" or write a "call to action" if I could. So it's a balance.

    Here's a typical "sales letter", generally I think it includes Tiger's list - attractive, call to action, etc.
    How School SCREWED You With Anxiety And Young Girls… And Getting Your Confidence BACK!


    I don't bother with that as I I've only got 4 programs... so it doesn't make sense to use an Amazon-style platform which is designed for hundreds of products.


    Yes, possibly I need to make it clearer. Every page on the SS website though DOES have a call to action in the form of downloading a free program.

    I figure if they're not willing to download the free program first, they won't be buying anything either.

    So I place the free program up front, and only LATER notify the person that I do have other, more recent and advanced programs.

    That's my logic anyway.

    Would love to hear your ideas. My internet marketing "strategy" (if you could call it that!) is really shabby for the most part.

    But one problem I have with most SEO or online strategies is that they involve spending hundreds of hours slogging away in front of the computer, which I don't have the time for :eek:

    I'm pretty much open to giving out tips myself, if anyone is curious. But I'm afraid I'm lacking in any "magic bullets" to make anyone "get rich quick".
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    Well I definately think you are making a really good job on promoting your articles, because just after each article I read on your website up to this point I just thought: Oh Shit I should buy this Programm! ^^:D The only thing which is maybe not really really good is that i don't say: Oh Shit I must buy this programm!

    So we should try to get to this point!

    Good that you mentioned this! Because for me this is really confusing on your website, maybe not for other people but it really confuses me a lot. Because sometimes I click on a link to an Blissnosis Programm and come to the Girls on Girls (or something like that) Programm, than you have also your Nonverbale Programm and your Beefcake Game and somewhere I also saw an seductions science course...

    this is really confusing, because i don't know as a customer if every programm gives me the same programm or if they are really different programms and if they are different which is the best for me? Nonverball? Blissnosis? Beefcake?

    Than your pricing strategy:
    If you have different products, why not charge different amount of money for every programm? Maybe I am wrong but I always see that every programm costs 57$. Why not making one Programm 30 $, the next a little better programm 57$ and the hyper end programm with the hyper awesome Tipps for 97 or even 147$? And than a bundle with all programms for just 199$?

    I think with this kind of pricing strategy you could make some more money (testing is King here= like approaching girls). Because the poor guy could get a programm for 30$ if he wouldn't have the money for a 57$ product and the rich guy would give you more money because to pay 100$ more doesn't bother him.

    Also the pricing 57$ for all your products is causing the confusuion above, because if every product would cost a different amount of money I would know that it's unlikely that they are all the same Programm you are try to selling but just with a nother name on it.

    As I said above I really think you are making a real good job, but with a few improvements (like the one I pointed out above) you could make a lot more money and also help a lot more buddies out there because they will buy your products and will take action and will life a happy life! And this with only a few hours of work. So not hundreds of hours, maybe 3 to 4 hours or a day, but if you could get 20% more customers after that, i really think that this could be worth a try.

    There are some more things you could maybe imrpove, if you want to hear them I could make a a short movie about that stuff or something different, because it's very complicated to write it down, would be a lot easier to just show them on the website and to talk about them...:)

    Well I think "magic bullets" and "get rich quick without some work" not really exist, maybe in advertising but in real life... I am not quiet sure. So if you have just some tips or best practicses just share.. we will see if they help somebody

    Best whishes Iam
  6. Angelic

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    Thanks for the tips IAM.

    For the product differentiation issue, I think you're talking about creating a "Product Catalog" right? The question is, where would I place a link to a product catalog. I'm a little afraid it would break the flow of the take-action funnel.

    In other words, 1) someone subscribes to the email list, 2) they receive an email with some free advice, 3) at the end of the article there's a call to action 4) they grab the program being promoted.

    BUT if I throw in a Product Catalog somewhere in there, it creates more links and options and complicates the process in some ways.

    The question exactly is, WHEN is a link to the product catalog best presented?

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    I set the price to $57 after some testing, and found that $60 is about what most people are willing to pay for a big dating program. So I've just stuck with that price point, but I can change it up if it's causing confusion!
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  8. Angelic

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    Okay so I'll throw out some tips here...

    You can write lots of written posts, which get indexed by the search engines and bring traffic.

    It will typically take a full year to be pulling some decent traffic from writing though. Unless you're a speedy, fast and interesting writer though, you'll find it very tedious.

    Another option is to create videos and get lots of YouTube traffic. That's pretty difficult too because most people are looking for hot girls stripping or dancing cats and that sort of stuff.

    But then again, all you really need to make is $500 U.S. a month and that's probably enough to quit your job... if you're willing to move in with your parents, or rent a room with a friend. Money would be very tight, but still quite doable. And then you can devote more of your time to expanding your online business.

    If anyone has a specific business they're thinking about, I think that would be easier to discuss and kick around ideas. ;)
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    I really like your 500 Bucks example, because this is what makes IM so incredible awesome, because if you ever made some more bucks you could live like anywhere in the world, because you are not bound to one place.

    I would like to add something here:
    - Write Seo optimized content (if you don't know what is iz google it, it will definately help your business)
    - Get Links, Links, Links to your site (more links and more higher qualitive links and google thinks: "Wow, that has to be a very good Website, because a lot of other websites are also linking to this site" (Higher Social Value :D ))

    If you don't like to write outsource it.
    If you don't like to do Offpage-Seo outsource this.

    The only thing you have to do is: find a good company or folks which are good in what they do. Because like in the Dating Industry there is also a lot of scam.
  10. TequilaMan Well-Known Member

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    Here is Eben Pagan (aka David DeAngelo) telling us about information marketing.
    He sells many products that people use to help themselves.
    (He was the first person that I learned from on-line with his info on dating/relationships/being the man.)

    Here is the link to his product for on-line information:
    GURU MasterClass

    TM
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    Yeah he introduced me to the community I purchased his DYD book years ago then after reading his book I discovered a community exists related to seduction :D.

    A very clever man indeed.
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    Awesome, this is the thread for me. Alright I will be posting here after my sleep. I am actually in online business/marketing and I have access to the best tools to learn about it so I will get it going fast with my new businesses. I will tell you guys more about it soon. I'll probably log back on in the afternoon of though. Let's talk about this and maybe we can start a great team!
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    I'd like to hear it. You'll want to start a new thread though, this thread is OLD.
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  14. bravefox Well-Known Member

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    heres a way to make money online
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    Is this a new way of PRAYING for money?
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    In the spirit of the spirit or the gentleman above, I woudn't want to label the online maney making formula I posted and revealed it in a moment of pure inspiration, or what Larry does at the pic, and reduce it to something it is not...but in case I am forced I guess I would end up with saying somethin along these lines...I think Larry is just being cheerful and dancing ....CELEBRATING as Osho used to say...
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    Life is a moment to celebrate, to enjoy. Make it fun, a celebration, and then you will enter the temple. The temple is not for the long-faced, it has never been for them. Look at life--do you see sadness anywhere? Have you ever seen a tree depressed? Have you seen a bird anxiety-ridden? Have you seen an animal neurotic? No, life is not like that, not at all. Only man has gone wrong somewhere, and he has gone wrong somewhere because he thinks himself to be very wise, very clever. Your cleverness is your disease. Don't be too wise. Always remember to stop; don't go to the extreme. A little foolishness and a little wisdom is good, and the right combination makes you a buddha.
    Osho I Celebrate Myself Chapter 4
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    These three women dancing in the wind and the rain remind us that celebration never need depend on outside circumstances. We need not wait for a special holiday or a formal occasion, nor a sunny and cloudless day. True celebration arises from a joy that is first experienced deep within, and spills over into an overflow of song and dance and laughter, and yes, even tears of gratitude. When you choose this card, it indicates that you are becoming more and more available and open to the many opportunities that are to celebrate in life, and to spread this by contagion to others. Don't bother about scheduling a party on your calendar. Let your hair down, take your shoes off, and start splashing in the puddles right now. The party is happening all around you every moment!
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    So be cheerfull that's all you ever need:D ... you dont need any money:ROFLMAO: ...you just want money because you think it will make you cheerful...however it doesnt work that way...you can not fool the system... there is no way to happiness... hapiness is the way...first be happy then everything else gonna follow... yogurt knows yogurt...so practice being cheerfull and relax like Lary on the picture and the money will follow...you dont need any special system, just be cheerful and whatever you need gonna find the way to your doors...:cool:
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    "So be cheerfull that's all you ever need:D ... you dont need any money:ROFLMAO:".

    Try saying this to a person who is homeless.
    And to anyone who has been subject to the many ways our society has harmed him or her...especially, her.
    It's very difficult to pull out of poverty.
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    This cheerfulness thing apllyies particularly to homeless...:D no one need to be cheerful more than them...cause when you have everything provided you may afford not to be cheerful...but poor cant afford to not to be cheerful cause its costly mistake to make......depression and sorrow and worry wont help anyones finances on contrary....be cheerful and know that the tide always come back...that way it's more probable the money will follow...i read another day that even starving your body sometimes help prevent some diseases...perhaps your being poor is a cure for you...so be cheerfull...its easy to improve financially but to be constantly cheerful is the most difficult thing in the world...:p so many rich and middle class depressed unhappy hollow empty...their money and wealth do not do them many good there is no way to hapiness- hapiness is the way...
  20. TequilaMan Well-Known Member

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    How about a smile and giving a homeless person some money..
    Being constantly hungry, fearful or wet, needing a bath, cold, hot, etc.; will cause misery.

    My, best guess is, you have never been close to or experiences, poverty, Bravefox.
    I don't mean to start a pissing-contest...this is another example of, you need to experience it, to understand it.