Hey guys! This is almost lay report so I need your opinion on what could have gone wrong. I must also worn you, its one page short (not long xD) and has many good details, so enjoy! I was studying in the library and one of my female friends with who talks about sex, flirt and share sex stories decided FINALLY to drop by my house for a "worm up house party" one on one, at 5pm :lol:. So as a warm up house present, I gave a shot of Tequila to all present people (me and her), said to take shoes off ("lets start striping you") and to sit on the bed ("because I don't want to have chairs in my room, so people become closer and already on the bed"). We talked about the advantages of bigger and smaller beds and that I forget to close down my curtains ("I like to get caught. Its creates excitement") and started to talk some BS with sexual orientation, while touching and grabbing her ass and boobs. She was pushing back and putting her cloth back on but at same time brushing against me, so I would continue. She didn't let me kiss her, so I stopped and proposed to watch the funniest porn ever from my computer. She agreed with slight alleviation that I actually proposed to stop and in same time getting exited about idea of watching porn, lol. We sat down and the first part of the movie was full of sex jokes and some sexy moments (when you girls would put themselves semi naked and do some crazy stuff without actual unorthodox behaviour). It was very funny and actual porn would start latter. In the middle of funny part, while I was sitting behind her with my legs wrapped around her and my hands all over her boobs massaging then, my flat mate decided to knock on my door and resolve the issue of which shelf's belonged to whom... I came back and she still watching. :thumbup: I knew I missed some of the best part of the film, but continued watching putting me in the same physical position I left her. When it came to actual porn I threw her on the bed, gave her first kiss (pretty light), and started to work all over her trying to take some of her cloth off. I failed to take all of it off, because she was putting it on more quickly then I was managing to take it off . She was giving me time. I sucked her tits and massaged her love stop through her jeans while talking dirty. During our session, she reached in my pants and grabbed my love toy, played with for less then 30 sec, looked at it and covered it with my t-shirt (that was still on), without giving much effort of hiding it. To my disappointment she decided that she wanted to go, without any particular reason. I let her go, but while she was still in my room I threw her against the wall and kissed her. She still was leaving so I made her kiss me one more time and to give a kiss to my boy toy. She did. In the public area I made a joke that we study very well together and she said we did. In the end It was strange, because it almost felt like I pushed her to hard or didn't deal well with the last minute resistance (LMR). I was working more with concepts like reckless disaster and do what you want and deal with the consequences latter. Later I remembered that I should have thanked her for coming so I send message saying: "thank you for coming =) we do also propose other activities than movie nights, like open bar nights and strip poker evenings xD". She didn't reply. I see this girl everyday and we have a lot of dirty talk, so I still cant believe I could have gone over the edge. Any comments? God bless you all. Tiger UPDATE! I fucked her :woot::thumbup: So it wasn't really a big deal. I think its was just leading this way, so today I was on FB (facebook) and received instant msg from her. We started to chat and I said "I'm bored", like she usually would say. Her reply was "me too", so I said "come over, lets see a movie", she said "ok", I said "I will put some tea". We didn't get to drink tea, lol. I just showed her a video and in the middle, she just stood up, went for the lights, came back and started to kiss me. I grabbed her by the ass, lifted her up and put her against the wall. I was taking my time, like I said I would, but she undressed me very fast, so we were naked quite quick. I still was taking my time and I went to lick her precious and then did some finger job before sticking it like a winner. I also give her a chance to work with her mouth and then went for magic number 69, lol. After some fucking around, I proposed to see a film (so we actually did that) called "I hope they serve beer in hell". I know, I know, very funny shit, hehe. She actually wanted to cuddle before the best moment of the film (the part where I was laughing my ass off), so I put her eyes in the right direction, . In the end it was 3am, and she still decided to return home by bike (its Netherlands, hehe) and my charming "stay, we will have fun in the morning", didn't really work. The bottom line here is that her BF (that she is planing to dumping) and her fuck buddy (the main) are on vocation, so I guess she always wanted to do it with me, hehe. Cheers guys, Tiger
Oh...What a story...You cum-up with some really wild stories. Now, you said the two of you talk about sex and exchange sex stories. The two of you were in your apartment and you and her were getting aroused, sexually. Of course, you were TOUCHING and massaging her boobs. Now, I have NEVER been in this type of situation with a woman. Partly due to my lack of experiences, but, if a woman was in this type of situation with me, she would NOT have a chance of escaping. But do you know what, Tiger...I do similar things to women. I will TEASE the hell out of them, just for the enjoyment of getting them turned-on. But, if I DON'T find them appealing to me, I will NOT bring it any further. Maybe, I am turning into more of a woman.:lol: I remember Wize saying something to the effect, the more masculine we become (the more feminine we become) we will then start to grow breasts. :lol: Tiger, based on my knowledge of you, and YES, I believe you are behaving like MOST men...she, MAY be, conveying the idea that you DO NOT turn-her-on like she wants to be turned-on. Or, there's something in your personality that prevents her from taking it further. But, on the other hand, this MAY be one of her sex fantasies. :lol: She wants to see how many men she can get aroused and then leave them!:thumbup: (I MAY be just like her!):lol: TM Special Note 1: You MAY NOT be talking dirty enough to her. Special Note 2: Ahhh...How many orgasms did she have?
Good story and it was a nice get. I think what went wrong was you forgot a cardinal formula in being a PUA and that's Never ever be more ______ than your target is. That means, never be more interested in her than she is in you. Never be more attracted to her than she is to you. And never be more sexually turned on than she is turned on by you. When I'm undressing a girl, she will always have less clothes on than me right until the very end. Where I think I saw it go wrong is that you were perusing her hot and heavy when you should have been mirroring and leading her. I think if you mirrored her and upped her desire then by the time you were heavy into it she would have been too far gone to turn back. You were giving her interest but not desire. You were creating heat but not lust. To create lust you have to get into her head -- and not either of yours! After the initial meeting a stranger resistance, this one is the next highest resistance you're going to run into. That's why it's so important to mirror and be in her head so you can direct and control. When you mirror, look at how her body is sitting. Is it toward you or away from you? Don't forget to touch her. It doesn't have to be sexual. All touch is good and the more you touch her the more she gets used to feeling your touch. There are a lot of things I could comment on about the interaction you had but just remember, not ever swing is going to be a home run. And just because you only made it to second base doesn't mean you not going to score the next go round. Play it cool. Be cool. Don't panic. Have fun. Hope this helps.
Thx for your thoughts guys. Here is some update on the story: Today, me and this girl, we went to the swimming pool because we wanted to see who is the better swimmer. We wanted to see who is the better swimmer because I, with my superior physical structure (not very modest, but true - I can do back flips on the ground) bitten badly one of my male friends who wanted also to compete (it happened on the lake). So this was before the "almost lay report", then the "almost lay report" happened and then because this guy wanted to see who is better swimmer, the swimming pool happened. He was there too. The event couldn't be canceled due to some bedroom stories because otherwise it would become very obvious. Anyway, I saw the girl before we meet with the guy and gave her a kiss in the mouth, just to try my territory. She accepted, so it was on! We went to the swimming pool where we meet our male friend and I of course bitten badly the girl! (Very proud about it too, hehe). The guy actually is her ex-fucker / BF, so I couldn't do anything in front of him, because otherwise I would f up my chances with the girl latter... The good part is that he needed to leave before me and the girl wanted, so latter we went to the dressing cabins, where she gave me a blow job! How it happened was, I went with her inside one of this one person dressing cabins and started to get undressed to change the cloth. She did the same thing, so I kind helped to clean her plus started to talk dirty and kiss her neck. She got provoked by seeing me naked kissing her and let me take the rest of her swimming suit off. I went down and started licking her pussy. From the back first, then moved to front. After I stood up kissed her, and lead her down to my power house to do her thing. It was very nice indeed. I also tried to sit down and lead her on top of me but she refused. I guess it happened because I didn't stimulate her enough. I wasn't doing MY thing for too long... Lesson learned - stimulate the girl more by caring more about her sexuality and not just about myn... Hopping to close the deal next time, but I dunno. Actually she might not have given me because she was meeting with someone else latter... (I wouldn't be surprised about it at all, lol) That's it. Stay tuned for the next update. Tiger
GREAT work, Tiger. It's GOOD to read your stories and see that YOU are taking steps in being better. The "mirroring" that Steven talked about is difficult for me to understand. I remember reading about mirroring in an article I read that was about, "Charisma". I agree with what you said: "Lesson learned - stimulate the girl more by caring more about her sexuality and not just about myn... (my own)". (But, this is what I have been believing and conveying). TM
And you got through :thumbup:. Jesse, its extra nice to be receiving a blow job award, even if it is "close enough", hehe. Steven, I heard about mirroring principle, but as TM said, I dont really understand it... I mean, its easy to understand, but its hard to incorporate in my game. Sometimes you need to be able to imagine something to be able to do it, and I dont really see myself doing this right now... I think its like what TM was saying about female sexuality. Eventually it got through . I DO understand though the principle of doing less then the girl. Its five stars :thumbup:. Cheers all, Tiger
Here's an article from "8 Keys to Instant Charisma" (Found on the internet) 1. Mirroring This simple technique was the inspiration for this article. Mirroring is copying the other person’s physical mannerisms, movements and facial expressions when engaged in a conversation. You become a mirror image of the other person. (see Wikipedia) Mirroring happens naturally in social interactions, but when you are conscious of it and are aware of its affects, it can be used as a tool in effective communication for generating rapport. Mirroring someone closely will cause you to feel what they’re feeling (to some extent). I did an exercise once, in a group of three, during a workshop. One person starts by visualizing a scene; seeing, feeling and experiencing the scene. A second person imitates this person’s facial expressions and physical postures. A third person adjusts the second person’s facial expressions and physical postures until he thinks that they are identical. After several minutes, the second person explains what she was feeling. Not only does the second person feel the feelings of the first person, but will at times see what the first person is seeing in his imagination. I was blown away after trying this out, myself. Next time you’re engaged in a conversation with someone, try mirroring body language, posture, and facial expressions. You will find that the conversation suddenly feels very friendly and open. For example: You are sitting across the table from someone. You watch them pick up a glass of water with their left hand and gently lean forward, then to the right. You mirror them by holding your glass of water with your right hand, leaning forward and towards the left. Try it next time … just for fun.
Like I said, "Women are highly sexual creatures". It's Great that you got a chance to do some REAL good stuff with her. I was wondering, though, Tiger...when you said, "..fingering her..", what was your intent or purpose for doing this?...I mean, did you use a specific technique to achieve a certain result? Here's a TRUISM that I forgot to mention: When a man can give a woman many orgasms, she will return in in many ways, sometimes, 10 fold. (From my experience, there are some women who have certain problems that prevents them from returning it in many ways. I call them, "TAKERS". Choose your women wisely.) TM
Ha! 2 awards for one post? I'm proud. Thx Jesse :thumbup: Well maybe this girl will do a threesome with me and other girl she is always talking about (not so pritty, but with booty). Jesse maybe you should update the avord diversity, than ppl will know what to strive for! I do definitely want them all at one point or other, hehe. Maybe a playboy award? Huh, now I'm thinking about threesomes, will create new post with questions and comments. Cheers, Tiger
