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  1. Artistic

    Tone New Member

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    so I'm learning one stupid mistake at a time. I'm inside the SaddleRanch with the whole crew and go around opening sets. I make a single round talking to a few sets, but never really hooking. I went back a few times to each set, never spending too much time; I was practically running around the bar. After a while I realized I wasn't comfortable reopening any of the sets, so I left the bar and walked home.

    I thought about the night over a bowl of popcorn. I realized I don't listen to people when I'm in "set", I just talk about whatever random shit pops into my head. I decided to go back out and ran into the group as we head over to The Den. after getting a good body language tip from Bouncer (pay attention to your hands) and breathing technique from Maven I had a much more fruitful experience just listening to the sets I was Talking too.

    I kind of when Mavin gives me the breathing technique, "Breath in with your nose, out through your mouth with your diaphragm. do this five times." I did the exercise and felt pretty good. Bouncer pointed me to two girls and said "go open". I walk over and demonstrate, "See? In through the nose, out through the mouth with your diaphragm. It feels great!"

    HB: "Did you read our body language?" (I'm still unsure what that meant)
    ME: "No I can't read" (Deadpan expression) they had a laugh and opened up.

    I really wish I remembered the details; something took their attention and they left. I re converged with bouncer, "Stop moving your arms around, playin' with your buttons n' shit." so I put my arms at my sides and turned to the girl behind me "My arms are at my sides, I'm normal now."

    wow.......I'm just realizing how much I fucking talked. I did listen well and responded to what they said...but I didn't put enough involvement into the conversation.

    Anyway, things went well between this girl and I. Someone gave me a rose out of nowhere,
    ME: "wow, Thank you so much sweetie"
    flower girl: "Give it to your girlfriend. How long have you two been together?"
    ME: "For about ten minutes. (Deploy the claw) Things are getting pretty serious."

    we locate the girl giving out the flowers

    Me: "She seemed pretty enough, you think she should join us tonight?" HB nods, then it's her turn to go sing karaoke. I go outside to open another 3 set of french girls. Had lots of fun with them, but the other HB was nowhere to be found.

    Still had a great night, but I must involve others in my conversations. Pay attention to what they say, pay attention their body language and my own, involve them in the conversation......I think that's it. I'll be focusing on that for a while.

    Tone*
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  2. Angelic

    Jesse Charger Administrator

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    Tone, have you thought about bringing a recorded with you and lapel mic. That way you can record some of the conversations, at least you can pick up your own voice a little bit and that can better help you review what sounds off. You'll feel self-conscious at first with a recorded (like someone's judging you) but eventually you'll forget it's there.
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  3. Artistic

    Tone New Member

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    Thanks man, I'm sure to do that soon.
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    With all the guys last night at Rock'n Rielies. I go in feelin' great (useless anecdote). I begin too officially open sets very lazily. I roll into a set with mavin, two women and Mavin and I and a live-in go in. The live in is on fire being super sociable with the set. I find myself watching the it all happen. Mark was arguing with one of the girls about southern accents. I was mindful while leaving the set that I didn't leave awkwardly. "Well guys, I'll let this argument continue and go inside. I'll see you"
    Every opener I used that night was something randomly weird from the last set. For me I am getting used to transitioning from random shit into actual conversations. The more into myself, and the more I relate my randomness to their lives, the better I hook the set. I legitimately had a fun night, which led to truly whacky openers. from not hugging properly, to bunnies fucking on ecstasy.
    Going out through the bar I trip over some tall black girl's shoes. We hit it off very well, in fact it's pretty much on between us; and It never registered in my mind that right at the bar where we were talking was the perfect spot to make out. she introduced me to her friend, who I met earlier, then to a group at a table. I told her I'll be out back for a moment to see my friends.
    I spent four or five minutes out back. Right here is the same position I've been hanging up on for three nights in a row; where a girl expresses interest, and I'm completely unsure how to act. I texted the guys and they were already on their way to red rock, so I went back to her and invited her to come to Red Rock with me. She and her friends we're going later, but when I met the guys at Red Rock we left soon after and never caught up with her.
    I keep trying different paths with this stumbling block, getting more adventurous each time, but this was interesting. I've got to react properly when I get clear go signals like she was giving me.
    Any thoughts are appreciated guys. Thanks.

    Tone*
  5. Angelic

    Jesse Charger Administrator

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    Sounds like it was a learning experience... so next time you'll be more conscious not to hold back so much.

    The issue may stem from permission seeking behavior. You hold back and are waiting for the woman to give you explicit permission for you to make your moves. Women like leaders though - so you've got to lead, step on her toes, do what seems slightly uncomfortable, and just go for it. Girls get that initial shock but they love it when it happens, when you just take action and man up to take what's yours. Women want to be taken, they don't want to give you permission.

    I guess, try to realize when the conversation is getting too friendly and just coasting, and instead try to think more with your penis and physically escalate it more.
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  6. Angelic

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    By the way, how has it been going Tone? :)
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  7. Artistic

    Tone New Member

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    Really well Jessie:)
    The entire picture of the seduction lifestyle is coming together, and I'm accepting myself more fully (IE. Outside of PUA archetypes).

    You summed up a point that I've been pushing myself toward more. Women I've met have never had a negative reaction to me escalating;that's pretty fuckin' cool. I'm going to continue to push outside of my comfort zone. Thanks for the advice dude.

    Tone*
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    Tone, who's the blondie in the picture. Your sister, right? hehe She's cute.
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    I'm in field with Tone every night Jesse so I have a lot of posts to catch up on since I was back on the East coast for a bit.