Hey guys. Hopefully someone here will be able to give a few pointers. Basically I've been seeing a girl that lives up in Montreal. I live around NY...its about 6 hours away. I think someone here was doing a similar thing with a girl in Toronto? Anyway, I've actually only been with her on two separate occasions, but we skype a lot. I've been giving her orgasms over skype, talking dirty, etc. Except that she's always rubbed her pussy against something or rubbed herself while we talk and this helps her to come a few times, which is great. She's 23, and the only way that she's ever been able to come with someone is through what she calls "the rub". When you lay down to the side of her, raise her leg and start rubbing your cock against her pussy and clit. This way she can cum easily. But...she said she's never had an orgasm through sex before. We had sex (post phone orgasm, and post deep spot method), and she didn't look like she was ever really close to cumming through sex. Even after taking her hard, dominating her, talking dirty, etc. So I tried using the deep spot on her, and she liked it but was the first girl I haven't been able to make cum through using the deep spot. She's extremely comfortable about herself, very open minded, emotionally healthy, etc. I just feel like she's conditioned herself over time to always be used to rubbing something before she cums. I've given girls orgasms over phone without them touching themselves before, its usually not a problem for me. But it just seems that she's conditioned herself to rely specifically on her pussy/clit rubbing against something in order to come, and through skype she always wants to rub it against something. So I'm wondering, after trying skype/phone and the deep spot, what else should I do to give her a vaginal orgasm? I really want to give her this but its the first time this has happened, and I'm not sure which direction to go. Should I build everything up really slowly until she can't take it anymore? Something along these lines? Sorry for the rant. Any tips I'd appreciate. Thanks!